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Re: Got a deal on a Rondo! [khdamighty] by skiingyac
May 10, 2007 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: khdamighty (May 10, 2007 2:15 pm)

My initial experience with Martin Kia was that they gave me a price that was basically sticker, and said they couldn't do better than that, and that they couldn't look for the car unless I put down a deposit. I talked to Kia of West Chester on the phone only, and they gave me an OK price but tried to sell me on how they have these gimmicks like a $1000 or so "shopping spree", a 3-night vacation, etc which all had plenty of strings attached.
 
I think you're right that the salesperson's perception has a lot to do with it, along with the circumstances... I think the test drive is as much about you testing the car as it is them getting info out of you. I would guess they saw my wife & I as two 25-year olds who mostly knew what they wanted but hadn't really bought any cars before (which is basically true, except for a saturn which is much different) and did some research online but didn't have any firm numbers (again, also true, I didn't plan to buy on that first trip). Their goal was to sell to me before I left that first time and firmed up my numbers. They didn't volunteer any info and didn't budge for me. It all depends on the salesperson's general tactics and how the salesperson reads you as to how they approach selling you a car.
 
On the second, unannounced trip to the dealership when I just gave the sales manager the price to beat and said if they beat it I would sign all the paperwork on the spot, they magically changed their tune... but they had no choice, I gave them the impression that I was either going to buy from them at the price I wanted or walk out & drive straight to West Chester (which is basically true).
 
If I lived closer to West Chester, I probably would have just bought from them, but I felt some sympathy to Martin since they took me for the test drive, plus they beat the price.
 
I don't really have a lot to compare my experience with though, just my first car I bought from Saturn which was one of the salesperson's first cars he ever sold. Also a trip to I think Honda around that same time where the salesperson looked (and acted) exactly like John Travolta in one of his movies where he's a bad guy, drug dealer, etc.
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Re: Got a deal on a Rondo! [khdamighty] by mr_orting
May 10, 2007 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: khdamighty (May 10, 2007 2:15 pm)

>...Price isn't the most important aspect out there. I find that being treated with respect and not talked down to can make any purchase feel better.
[Gill] But not necessirly cheaper. Depends upon what you want to spend your money on I suppose.
  
>...Kepp in mind too that I want someone there for me, even after I leave with my new car. I don't think those guys at Martin Kia would give me the time of day if i had a question or problem with my new car a year from now.
[Gill] Not necessarily so. Dealers have to honor warrenty claims regardless.
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Re: Got a deal on a Rondo! [mr_orting] by khdamighty
May 11, 2007 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: mr_orting (May 10, 2007 4:34 pm)

[Gill] Not necessarily so. Dealers have to honor warrenty claims regardless
My reply - Kia of WestChester did right by me and I recommend them to everyone I talk to. Warranty claims are not the only reason to contact a dealership afterwards. There is continual maintenance to be done on the vehicle. If I feel I have a good realtionship with my salesman, and the dealership, then I am way more comfortable bringing my car there for service. I guess it's more peice of mind that I am paying for than the actual vehicle. The cars cost the same no matter what store you go to. And the invoice price is the same no matter where you go. If someone takes the time to show me entire vehicle, answer all my questions and make sure I am happy, then they deserve to be paid for it, don't you think? Salesmen get a bad reputation, but they are not all the same. My salesperson at Kia of Westchester was wonderful and thorough and spent over 5 hours total with me and my husband. I think they should get paid for that (of course I am not going to pay for their next vacation, but some compensation is earned)
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Re: Got a deal on a Rondo! [khdamighty] by mr_orting
May 11, 2007 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: khdamighty (May 11, 2007 2:24 pm)

>My reply - ... There is continual maintenance to be done on the vehicle. If I feel I have a good realtionship with my salesman, and the dealership, then I am way more comfortable bringing my car there for service.
[Gill] It's fee for service and all the dealers offer that. I don't get the connection.
 
>...I guess it's more peice of mind that I am paying for than the actual vehicle. The cars cost the same no matter what store you go to.
[Gill] Not so. I sent out 20 faxes got back six with prices all over the map. I hose the lowest which was $1,099 under invoice.
 
And the invoice price is the same no matter where you go.
[Gill] Not exactly. The "group advertising" fee can vary depending upon which market you are in. Also, there can be a charge for "financial reserves". I paid $350 in advertising for the Seattle market area and there was no "reserves".
 
>...If someone takes the time to show me entire vehicle, answer all my questions and make sure I am happy, then they deserve to be paid for it, don't you think?
[Gill] That's just good salesmanship and should not be a guilt trip or obligation to purchase.
 
>...Salesmen get a bad reputation, but they are not all the same. My salesperson at Kia of Westchester was wonderful and thorough and spent over 5 hours total with me and my husband.
[Gill] Yes they do and they create their own bed that they sleep in. Refreshing to know you had a good experience. I had a good one as well, but that was because I kept him on track.
 
>...I think they should get paid for that (of course I am not going to pay for their next vacation, but some compensation is earned)
It's all a part of doing business and there are no entitlements. If the price is right, I buy.
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Re: Got a deal on a Rondo! [mr_orting] by bobw3
May 17, 2007 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: mr_orting (May 11, 2007 3:07 pm)

Dealers have to honor warranties, but whether or not a given repair is covered under a warranty is a very gray area. I've had to fight to get warranty repairs completed for repairs that didn't involve actually replacing an item. A lot of repairs today are more computer and module adjustments, and you need a good dealer who may need to research if those can be covered by a warranty. On the other hand, you can always buy from the cheap dealer and service at a good one because the sales people and the service manager are really separate.
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Re: Got a deal on a Rondo! [bobw3] by mr_orting
May 17, 2007 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (May 17, 2007 9:01 am)

>...I've had to fight to get warranty repairs completed for repairs that didn't involve actually replacing an item.
[Gill] Very good point. I guess the oly alternative to getting service at another point than purchase is to pay for the service and then go to the factory - possibly a long process.
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Upolstery Issues by mr_orting
May 17, 2007 (9:47 am)
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I have encountered a problem with the upolstery on the "LX" model. If you encounter a sain, be careful of how you clean it. Mysteriously, a stain appeared on the passinger seat and I had to take a rather stiff brush to get any debth to removal. That act damaged the upolstery. Also, plain soap and water left a stain, so scrub all around the spot so as to blend it in to the cloth.
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Re: Upolstery Issues [mr_orting] by taximom5
May 17, 2007 (1:25 pm)
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Replying to: mr_orting (May 17, 2007 9:47 am)

Here's a great upholstery cleaning tip:
 
Get a pack of baby wipes (yes, baby wipes), and a mug of boiling hot water. Dip one baby wipe in the hot water, and use it to scrub the stain. Or you can use a baby wipe and a fabric steamer.
 
Prepare to be amazed--it works like magic! (It just makes me wonder what it does to our babies' bums...)
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Rondo EX V6 - Leather + Premium Package + 3rd by 97sonata
May 18, 2007 (9:49 am)
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Hi All-
 
Long time lurker, first time poster.
 
I just bought a Rondo EX V6 with 3rd row, Leather & Premium packages from Capitol Kia in Madison, WI for $22245 before TTL(5.5% plus $108) and Rebate($750). I took the KMFC financing at 3.9% and applied the rebate as a down payment. No regional marketing charge was part of the mark-up but the dealer did have a prep charge of $125 for paperwork and full tank of gas etc.
 
I was pleased by the deal as I did not want to travel far to get the car and most dealers I checked really did not have much for Rondo selection. The deal was pain-free as I emailed the sales person and they went over the car with me from top to bottom.
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Re: Rondo EX V6 - Leather + Premium Package + 3rd [97sonata] by rondonium
May 18, 2007 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: 97sonata (May 18, 2007 9:49 am)

Sounds like a great deal and a great buying experience - enjoy!

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