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Kia Rondo Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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#137 of 383
Re: Car seats [medicineman] by crewzin
Apr 15, 2007 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: medicineman (Apr 15, 2007 5:16 pm)

Hey thanks Medicineman. I'm sure "pgov" will appreciate that info on the car seats.
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Re: Car seats [medicineman] by pgov
Apr 16, 2007 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: medicineman (Apr 15, 2007 5:16 pm)

Thank you for the reponse. This was very helpful. I am still seriously considering making a Rondo my next car.
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still frustrated! by taximom5
Apr 16, 2007 (5:44 pm)
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Well, the dealer that had the supposedly good offer emailed me with a "Whoops, my sales manager gave me the wrong price, and we have the EX not the LX, so it's $2000 more than I quoted."
 
I HATE these bait-and-switch tactics.
 
Saturn is looking better and better....
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Re: still frustrated! [taximom5] by mr_orting
Apr 16, 2007 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: taximom5 (Apr 16, 2007 5:44 pm)

If you go back and read my original posting I strongly suggested people use "Fightingchance.com" fax attack principal. It won me $1,099 under invoice. Send the fax to all dealers within reasonable driving range in the last week of the month or better yet, the last week in the quarter. I sent out 20 and got back 6 and 2 were worth considering. If there is a Costco near you, they usually arrange for $75 to $200 over invoice. If you are thinking Saturn, be prepared to pay MSRP and no dickering on anything.
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Re: still frustrated! [mr_orting] by csandste
Apr 16, 2007 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: mr_orting (Apr 16, 2007 6:21 pm)

It was several years ago (end of the SL, I think), when the local Saturn dealer had many low mileage (thirty or forty miles) used cars on the lot at discount. Not sure if that is still going on. Maybe when the Ion gets replaced.
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Costco by taximom5
Apr 17, 2007 (7:14 am)
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I tried the Costco in our area, and they say that they can't find a local Kia dealer who will consider Costco's competitive rates, and do I want to try another make/model.
 
I tried Sam's Club, and the dealer associated with them is supposed to get back to me with a quote within 48 hours. What do you want to bet he will say, "When can you come in?" without giving me a quote??
 
Sigh...
 
What I can't understand is, it's not like Kias are flying off the lots around here--the one we test-drove has been on the lot for 4 months now, and it only had 45 miles on it (12 driven by us), so it's not like it's getting a lot of test drives, either. I would have thought the dealer would be happy to get rid of it!
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Re: Costco [taximom5] by mr_orting
Apr 17, 2007 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: taximom5 (Apr 17, 2007 7:14 am)

>...I tried Sam's Club, and the dealer associated with them is supposed to get back to me with a quote within 48 hours. What do you want to bet he will say, "When can you come in?" without giving me a quote??
[Gill] I guess I would see if I could find the nearest Dealer. How far are you willing to travel to find something?
  
>...What I can't understand is, it's not like Kias are flying off the lots around here--the one we test-drove has been on the lot for 4 months now, and it only had 45 miles on it (12 driven by us), so it's not like it's getting a lot of test drives, either. I would have thought the dealer would be happy to get rid of it!
[Gill] Well, they are flying off the lots in the Seattle market. Usually, there is a two month reserve built into the invoice for flooring. Some manufactureres hide it and some come out and list it on the invoice as "allowance for financial reserve" or something like that.
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Re: Costco [mr_orting] by taximom5
Apr 17, 2007 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: mr_orting (Apr 17, 2007 7:34 am)

Is Kia giving the Seattle dealers more incentives?
 
Darn, wish we were closer to Seattle (we're in Pittsburgh)!
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Re: Costco [taximom5] by skiingyac
Apr 17, 2007 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: taximom5 (Apr 17, 2007 7:14 am)

How far away have you looked so far? If you are in an area with little competition, you're probably not going to make any progress unless you look farther away. I live within 15 minutes of 3 Kia dealers, and didn't get a good price from any of them until I got a quote from a place in Philly that is around an hour away.
 
I think what it comes down to is that the price on the window sticker is there for people who are happy going to the nearest place, picking out a car, and paying sticker. If you want to get a price better than MSRP or than their standard "lowest possible price" if you say you're not happy with that, you need to do some haggling. Not a lot, but definitely some.
 
It doesn't matter whether you're willing to drive 2+ hrs to buy a car (though you might need to be), send an email/fax to all those places, saying you got a quote for $x and are looking for a better price, and will only drive all the way to their lot if they can quote you with a significantly lower price and can guarantee they have the exact car you're looking for. Some places won't (not can't, won't) do that, so you have to try a half dozen at least. Eventually someone will, then you take that written quote to your local place who has it in stock, hand it to the sales manager and say "I will buy this car right now if you can beat this price, otherwise I am leaving and will buy it from the other dealer". Don't sit down, don't give them your trade-in's keys, wander around the showroom, leave your coat on, etc. until you get a dollar amount, but be clear to them that you will sign right now if the price is right. If the sales manager beats/matches the price (or comes within $100 or whatever), great, otherwise say "thanks anyway" and turn around and walk out to your car. The sales manager already knows whether they can really match/beat the price, and will quickly change their mind unless the sale will really be a loss for them. If they don't, you know not to go back to that dealer.
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Re: Costco [skiingyac] by taximom5
Apr 17, 2007 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: skiingyac (Apr 17, 2007 7:51 am)

Thanks, skiingyac, that's good advice.
 
I have only contacted 4 dealers--1 local, 1 40 minutes away, and 2 an hour away. I got an email from one that was an hour away, saying she had exactly the car I wanted (she listed the model, options, etc), and offering it for $19053, which was $1200 less than the local dealer's offer. So I brought the email to the local dealer, he didn't budge, and I left.
 
And the hour-away dealer is now saying that her manager made a mistake and that the car is actually $1300 more than she'd originally said. (Gee, I'm glad I didn't drive out there!)
 
So I will take your advice, and extend my search further out. I just wish these dealers weren't so darn dishonest!

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