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#850 of 859 Re: mbt shoes on sale [lucypearl]
May 08, 2010 (5:11 am)
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#851 of 859 10 Brands That May Disappear in 2011
Jul 09, 2010 (11:24 am)
Kia Motors Corp. is one of the two car brands of Hyundai of South Korea. It has always been a marginal brand. Its stable mate, Hyundai USA, has a reputation for high quality cars like the Sonata and Genesis. Kia sells "low rent" cars and SUV nameplates like the Sorento and Rio. As GM and Ford (NYSE: F - News) have already discovered, it is expensive to maintain multiple brands and storied car names, including Pontiac, Saturn and Mercury, are disappearing. Most Kia cars sell for $14,000 to $25,000. Hyundai has several cars in the same price range. Hyundai's Sonata has quickly become one of the best-selling cars in America, and its Genesis flagship model competes with mid-sized BMWs and Mercedes. The parent company will take a page from several other global car companies and dump its weakest brand
#852 of 859 Re: 10 Brands That May Disappear in 2011 [coolmazda5]
Jul 09, 2010 (11:43 am)
I don't think so, but these guys had predicted some correctly before...
#853 of 859 Re: 10 Brands That May Disappear in 2011 [coolmazda5]
Jul 09, 2010 (12:51 pm)
isn't it the other way around, the Rio is better than Accent, Sorento is better than Santa Fe. i remember couple years ago the Hyundai Elantra only had 2 airbags and no ABS, and the Kia Spectra had standard 6 airbags and ABS.
the Chevy/Pontiac twin brands worked well for GM until it was hit hard by the recent economic crisis, but Hyundai/Kia took advantage of it and gained market share.
i'm not sure if the writer of this article knows what he is saying.
#854 of 859 Re: 10 Brands That May Disappear in 2011 [coolmazda5]
Jul 10, 2010 (5:43 am)
I don't think that guy knows what he's talking about, if both Hyundai and Kia are both making record sales why would you get rid of a profitable division. There could be a possibility that Hyundai could sell off its controlling interest (I think its 38%) so that Kia would be totally independant, but as they share multi-platforms and engines, plus they both doing dramatic transformation of their products that they no longer look similar, it doesn't make a lot of sense. Kia has all these new models coming out over the next year or so, like the 2011 Sportage (end of this month), 2011 Optima (on its launch it outsold the Sonata on its home market), Cadenza, Rio. It's almost as if this article was written about five years ago.
However, models will disappear, 'cause it looks like coolmazda5 has finally won on all his arguments against the Rondo as that model is being discontinued in the US - but not in Canada.
#855 of 859 Re: 10 Brands That May Disappear in 2011 [conwelpic]
Jul 10, 2010 (1:00 pm)
Yawn, I guess it is too late (5 years?) to have a win or lose argument on the Rondo Mazda5 topic , I would actually see Mazda survival as a brand in worse shape than the KIA one, but I'm no analyst ,
I guess the author is not killing "all" the cars that KIA makes. but rather says that it is better for Hyundai to absorb the KIA brand into its line-up as Hyundai now has much better reputation today than in the past against its Japanese, Korean (OK, KIA), European and America counterparts.
Hyundai Forte, Hyundai Soul anyone?
And yes, I guess the Rondo is gone for good in the US. Interestingly enough when Ford is now bringing the C-MAX and Nissan is bringing back the revamped Quest, are non-suv people movers making a comeback (see the Odyssey and the Sienna)?
#856 of 859 Re: 10 Brands That May Disappear in 2011 [coolmazda5]
Jul 11, 2010 (1:43 pm)
i don't have problem with anyone making any prediction, but this writer is not able to present facts and prove he has a good understanding of the Hyundai/Kia brands.
i bet there is a better chance that oil will hit $150 than Kia disappearing in 2011.
#858 of 859 KIA Rondo for the US, formal demise (KIA USA web site)
Aug 22, 2010 (9:34 am)
Sad that SUVs are taking over once again
The site reads: "All good things should come to an end, but with endings, come new beginnings, introducing the all new 2011 KIA Sportage..."
#859 of 859 Re: KIA Rondo for the US, formal demise (KIA USA web site) [coolmazda5]
Aug 22, 2010 (7:13 pm)
looks like the Mazda 5 is going to have that niche of the market all to themselves for a while at least in the US, but not so in Canada.
It won't be long before the 2011 model will be arriving at dealerships. I see the US and Canadian sites are still not showing the details.