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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??

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#51 of 550 Re: Ford May Not Last [belias] by 93gmcdrivermn May 04, 2007 (6:35 am)
Replying to: belias (May 04, 2007 5:55 am) "Ford" keep it's lead? You guy's can word it however you like. The fact still remains General Motors 1500 series Trucks continue to out sell the Ford, F-150 year after year! Don't get me wrong the Ford F-150 is a popular truck i give it that! But it does not out sell General Motor's in total truck sales in the full size>1500 class< period! "Sorry" Silverado/Sierra? same truck! Diff grill assembly and badges,Interior, rim's also! But i can still take any part off a silverado and bolt it up to my Sierra! "Same Company" and just about same truck! Just cause you word something for effect, does not make it fact in the final year end count of total fullsize 1/2 ton truck sales by both Company's! Winner (GM) Replies to this message: belias (May 07, 2007 4:03 am) 93gmcdrivermn (May 07, 2007 1:59 pm) belias (May 10, 2007 4:06 am) bugchucker (Jul 24, 2007 4:08 pm) and 4 more...
#52 of 550 Re: Let's keep this about full-size trucks, please. [kcram] by 93gmcdrivermn May 04, 2007 (7:51 am)
Replying to: kcram (Apr 26, 2007 9:45 pm) Yeah' well they were still sold and count in that years talley. and i remind you Ford does not have the 1/2 ton full size truck lead! Thats been (GM) FOR MANY YEARS! Word it how you like! The bottom line is cold hard numbers! And Ford don't have them! Silverado/Sierra >(GM)< Has,Does and will!
#53 of 550 Pickup truck comparison by cptchetco May 05, 2007 (2:23 pm)
The Detroit News has an assembly of other newspaper reviews. I just read the ones on the Toyota Tundra, the Chev Silverado and Ford F250. (Yeah I know the 250 is a heavier duty truck than the other two, but it doesn't matter in this note). The Ford has a higher load rating, a much greater towing capacity, and The best fuel economy and lowest price for comparably equipped. No wonder Toyota only hit 2/3 of its projected sales this year. Replies to this message: belias (May 07, 2007 4:10 am)
#54 of 550 BS by cptchetco May 05, 2007 (2:25 pm)
Look at the sales facts from any unbiased source. Ford continues to be the biggest seller, and this is a year when Chev has a major redesigned model, and Ford does not; their redesign comes out in 2008.
#55 of 550 (Yeah I know the 250 is a heavier duty truck than the other two, but it doe by 93gmcdrivermn May 05, 2007 (4:31 pm)
To:cptchetco  "You are a funny guy" How does it not matter when your comparing a F-250's Load rating,Tow capacity, to a 1/2 ton Tundra and Silverado/Sierra? I'm still laughing! Can i use the GMC-TOPKICK for the comparison then? lol.......... Also the 2007 Motor Trend Truck of the year> Silverado (1/2)Ton gets better milage with a class leading 367-HP engine then a "COMPARABLY EQUIPPED" 2007 Ford F-150! And ride quality the Silverado/Sierra is second to none! Go check out my home page,i have a Indigo Blue 93'Sierra(SLE)Z-71 Reg Cab,Short Box I've been restoring for the past 2-1/2 years in my spare time. I wouldn't trade that Truck "straight up" for a 2007 F-150 (I'm Adding Pictures All The Time)Have a great day!
#56 of 550 Re: Ford May Not Last [93gmcdrivermn] by belias May 07, 2007 (4:03 am)
Replying to: 93gmcdrivermn (May 04, 2007 6:35 am) Take a deep breath and count to ten and relax... you've made your point. The combination of the Silverado/Sierra does out-sell Ford, but Ford is #1 in sales on this technicality, that's all. And besides, neither company is the "winner" on this. Until Ford or GM posts some kind of sustainable profit (i.e. lets just start by getting 3 or 4 quarters of profit), neither are winners. They could sell millions of trucks every year, but it they're bleeding money from all ends, it doesn't matter. What matters is if they can stay in business to do so. In that respect, GM is in a much better position than Ford, but that is merely saying that GM won't drown before Ford... point is that neither of them should be in deep water in the first place. Replies to this message: 93gmcdrivermn (May 07, 2007 1:59 pm) belias (May 10, 2007 4:06 am) bugchucker (Jul 24, 2007 4:08 pm) fordchris (Jul 25, 2007 8:10 am) and 3 more...
#57 of 550 Re: Pickup truck comparison [cptchetco] by belias May 07, 2007 (4:10 am)
Replying to: cptchetco (May 05, 2007 2:23 pm) You can't compare 3/4 ton trucks to 1/2 ton trucks any more than I can compare Formula 1 to Nascar. There is a big difference and it isn't even worth mentioning here, but they are distinctly orange to apples. As for Toyota's sales numbers, I don't know where you're getting that, but so far it is the only company that has higher 1/2 ton truck sales as of April. All others have sold less vehicles when compared to the same month last year. The truck market in general is getting hit hard because of gas prices. Not that Toyota is a threat to GM or Ford in this regard, but they are not as dependent on truck sales for revenue that the GM and Ford are. However, this hit in sales may affect Ford the most since GM has new models this year. Truck buyers are pretty loyal to their brand, but there are always a few that will try something new!
#58 of 550 Should have fired design team long ago! [belias] by 93gmcdrivermn May 07, 2007 (1:59 pm)
Replying to: belias (May 07, 2007 4:03 am) Your the first person I've got to admit that Ford does not out sell Silverado/Sierra! They all use Silverado only in there comparison and technically Ford's claim is misleading the public! A public that unfortunately believes everything they see in the media as gospel! If Ford had two full size trucks you can bet they would use both in making there claim! Ford needs to get off it" they have not out sold >GM< in years! Ford has made some real ugly Cars and Trucks over the years to say the least. And has always been behind the other two Companies in that aspect. I believe once the Companies restructure and put there resourses into a few good cars and trucks instead of fifty! They will gain the edge again and be a force in the Automotive industry! Myself i will still buy nothing but American made! All these people buying Tundras and anything else out of our scapmetal are just killing these Companies and our Country! Replies to this message: belias (May 10, 2007 4:06 am) bugchucker (Jul 24, 2007 4:08 pm) fordchris (Jul 25, 2007 8:10 am) bugchucker (Jul 26, 2007 4:19 pm) drfill (Jul 28, 2007 6:29 pm) belias (Aug 08, 2007 11:36 am)
#59 of 550 Re: Should have fired design team long ago! [93gmcdrivermn] by belias May 10, 2007 (4:06 am)
Replying to: 93gmcdrivermn (May 07, 2007 1:59 pm) Well, I, like you see no reason why the GMC/Chevy nameplate shouldn't be combined when comparing sales, but again, it is being done on a technicality -- something that is exploited a great deal in the media and by marketing in general. However, even without combining the two, it looks like this year the Silverado on its own will outsell Ford. Sales numbers already show that this is the case, though anything can happen with 7.5 months to go. As for buying American, suffice it to say that arguments have been made back and forth on what constitutes "American" any more. All companies have changed and I don't believe that competition has been detrimental to the Detroit3 in any way. I think the biggest drain on those companies has been the UAW. But, that's my personal opinion, not everyone will agree with me on this. There are obviously other reasons as well, but that stands out as the single largest drain on those companies. People can buy what they want with their own money and find ways to justify it as they like. I do agree that actual Ford vs GM sales for trucks has favored GM for years and will continue to be that way for a long time. Ford is in severe financial trouble and will likely try to out-wait Chrysler in the battle of who folds first. Either way, there is probably less than 2 years left for either Ford or Chrysler before one goes under or is bought out by someone else. The landscape in this industry is going to change as a result.
#60 of 550 Silverado vs. F-Series sales. by mschmal May 15, 2007 (7:22 am)
OK so as of the End of April, Ford F-Series racked up 228,343 sales and Silverado racked up 202,151.   Please explain how you can conclude that Silverado will outsell F-Series for 2007 based on those numbers? Or do you have a crystal ball you are looking into?   http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/05/02/046375.html Replies to this message: belias (May 16, 2007 9:30 am)

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