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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??

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What is this discussion about? Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck


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Re: March sales [kcram] by obyone
Apr 02, 2008 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: kcram (Apr 02, 2008 12:01 pm)

LOL!! Hey have you read your post from March 3, 2008?
 
Let me quote you:
 
Even though Tundra numbers are up, this was still against the old smaller Tundra. They are still well below the pace they need for 200K annual units.
 
For the two months after that post they averaged a little over 14K units each month. I would think they would've needed to average more like 24K per month.
 
At the pace they are at now at 40K for 3 months that should give them around 160- maybe 170K units for the calender year. Far cry from 200K.
 
The Dodge numbers are spooky down 25% yikes.
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Re: March sales [obyone] by kcram HOST
Apr 02, 2008 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: obyone (Apr 02, 2008 12:11 pm)

And I stand by that statement... they won't make 200K for calendar year 2008. But they did indeed reach their goal in the introductory year - both calendar year 2007 and for the new truck's first 12 months (Mar 07-Feb 08).
 
Edit - scroll back to post 73 and see how many units a month the Tundra was moving.
 
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Re: March sales [kcram] by b2900
Apr 02, 2008 (3:34 pm)
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Replying to: kcram (Apr 02, 2008 12:01 pm)

KCRAM
I agree I will find the stats to prove your statement but the Tundra did meet and exceed their goal of 200K units which is the writing on the wall for Ford Annual figures like this are awesome for any new vehicle.
 
My Buddy bought a New F-150 not a year ago and he was showing me that his chrome is pitting. Bear in mind I live in Canada where we use alot of road salt, however that said my Tundra has been exposed to the same amount of salt and NO chrome issues... In fact there are NO issues with my Tundra.
Signed a former Ford owner.
 
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Re: March sales [kcram] by obyone
Apr 02, 2008 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: kcram (Apr 02, 2008 2:53 pm)

The 200K projection was for calender year 2007 which they sold 196,555.
 
Their 2008 target goal is still 200K.
 
Quote: "Mr. Tetherow is still optimistic about the Tundra's overall sales target for the year, saying, "The sales goal for the Tundra is to still sell 200,000 (units in 2008)."
 
Source: Tundra production
 
Toyota sets the parameters of measurement for units sold per calender year. Still looks to me they did not attain their goal for 2007 nor will they be anywhere close in 2008.
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Re: March sales [b2900] by obyone
Apr 02, 2008 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: b2900 (Apr 02, 2008 3:34 pm)

Funny thing is Toyota is cutting back production on the Tundra and seems to have an abundance of Sequoias lying around too. According to pickuptruck.com Toyota has the capacity to build 300K units per year. When do you think that is going to happen at the current rate of sales?
 
While you criticize the sales of F150 using a rusting bumper comparison need I remind you that for March 2008 the F150 outsold the Tundra 3 to 1 and that is with a dated powertrain. Seems like bumpers aren't that important to truck owners.
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According to the Wall St. Journal by obyone
Apr 03, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Shoichiro Toyoda, a member of Toyota's founding family and the company's honorary chairman, visited the company's plant in Princeton, Ind., last October, according to a company executive familiar with the visit. "He didn't come to Indiana to commend our accomplishments; he came because he is concerned about lots of idle capacity we have in Indiana," the executive said.
 
Last month Toyota began tapping the brakes on production of vehicles at its San Antonio and Indiana plants to deal with rapidly cooling demand for full-size Tundra pickup trucks and Sequoia SUVs. The extent of the production cuts was not immediately clear.
 
The San Antonio plant can produce 200,000 full-size Tundra pickup trucks a year. The company can also produce Tundras in Indiana at a pace of 100,000 vehicles a year. The Indiana plant also produces Sequoias on the same assembly line that produces the Tundra.

 
Source link: Toyota feels the pinch
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1 to 3 by b2900
Apr 03, 2008 (1:29 pm)
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I have stated here before, let us not forget the Camry, in the early 80's it was very much the same as the Tundra sale 1 to 3 sales. History speaks for itself with Camry sales.Toyota in fact is largest selling auto motive product in the world.
 
Ford are literally dumping their trucks so they sell. They are using unreal residuals figures to lease, and the company keeps hemorrhaging billions of dollars in losses. The results are the loyal Ford customers are not getting realistic trade in values when trading. One has to ask how long can Ford's fatal business plan last? Do they have a nice truck.. Yes. Are they building better trucks .. I truly feel they are... Have they loss the loyalty of many of their former clients? That I will not answer, I rather see what the sales figures dictate in the future.
 
Signed a former Ford Truck owner.
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Re: 1 to 3 [b2900] by obyone
Apr 03, 2008 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: b2900 (Apr 03, 2008 1:29 pm)

While I have never owned a F150 and don't plan to in the future. I am surprised at how they have retained their sales lead.
 
The Camry is a car. If you haven't noticed on this and other topics on Edmunds that truck owners are a loyal bunch. Some, like you may not have that loyalty. I would venture to say though reading through the topics here that Ford has a fierce following and not one that would give up as easily as the competition for the Camry.
 
The introduction of the Tundra was one that Toyota hadn't planned with the engine, torque converter, tailgate issues as listed at tundrasolutions. With decreasing sales and Toyota looking at alternatives for their Indiana plant I am wondering where Tundra sales are going.
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Re: 1 to 3 [obyone] by b2900
Apr 04, 2008 (1:25 pm)
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Replying to: obyone (Apr 03, 2008 2:58 pm)

Yes Camry is a car... so was the Ford Taurus, Ford use to boasting the largest selling car in North America. This blog is about TUNDRA eventually doing the same The point, 200K Tundra sales in the first year is incredible. Now beware of throwing stones in a glass house with issues regarding the new production TUNDRA'S If you look back on this blog, you will see that Ford F-150 that has been produced for years has had enough recalls than Ford cares to admit. That said, and yes its a car the Ford Focus has the renowned record of being the highest recalled car ever produced and now the Mustang is about to take that crown away.
 
A former Ford Truck and Mustang owner
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Re: 1 to 3 [b2900] by obyone
Apr 04, 2008 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: b2900 (Apr 04, 2008 1:25 pm)

I could've sworn for the last two years Toyota led the automakers in recalls.
 
That is the ones that they did recall unlike the sludge issue. LOL!!

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