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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??

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#495 of 550 March sales by kcram HOST Apr 01, 2008 (12:17 pm)
Mar 08 Mar 07 +/- CY 2008 CY 2007 +/- ---------------------------------------------------------- F-Series / 54,465 / 71,481 / -23.8 / 148,138 / 171,651 / -13.7 Silverado / 42,561 / 55,626 / -23.5 / 122,779 / 152,715 / -19.6 Ram / 26,318 / 38,301 / -31.0 / 68,862 / 91,313 / -25.0 Sierra / 15,919 / 16,503 / -3.5 / 44,207 / 47,790 / -7.5 Tundra / 14,311 / 13,196 / 8.4 / 40,784 / 29,186 / 39.7 Titan / 3,869 / 7,563 / -44.9 / 11,355 / 18,847 / -39.0 Mark LT / 387 / 805 / -51.9 / 1,127 / 2,228 / -49.4   Tundra numbers still adjusting to the design change.   In contrast, Hyundai had its best March ever.   kcram - Pickups Host Replies to this message: obyone (Apr 01, 2008 1:29 pm) kcram (Apr 02, 2008 12:01 pm) obyone (Apr 02, 2008 12:11 pm) and 2 more... b2900 (Apr 02, 2008 3:34 pm) and 1 more...
#496 of 550 Re: March sales [kcram] by obyone Apr 01, 2008 (1:29 pm)
Replying to: kcram (Apr 01, 2008 12:17 pm) I wonder when Toyota figures it's newly designed Tundra going to hit their predicted 200K units per year? Or perhaps by now they figured that was a pipe dream? Even with their rebates, new prices, buying incentives they look to be substantially short of the 200K units. Now if we increase the time period of sales per 1.5 years they may have a chance. Replies to this message: kcram (Apr 02, 2008 12:01 pm) obyone (Apr 02, 2008 12:11 pm) kcram (Apr 02, 2008 2:53 pm) and 1 more... b2900 (Apr 02, 2008 3:34 pm) obyone (Apr 02, 2008 3:59 pm)
#497 of 550 Re: March sales [obyone] by kcram HOST Apr 02, 2008 (12:01 pm)
Replying to: obyone (Apr 01, 2008 1:29 pm) From March 07 to February 08, the Tundra sold over 207,000 units. Even the calendar year 2007, they were at 196 and change. They met their target already.   kcram - Pickups Host Replies to this message: obyone (Apr 02, 2008 12:11 pm) kcram (Apr 02, 2008 2:53 pm) obyone (Apr 02, 2008 3:41 pm) b2900 (Apr 02, 2008 3:34 pm) obyone (Apr 02, 2008 3:59 pm)
#498 of 550 Re: March sales [kcram] by obyone Apr 02, 2008 (12:11 pm)
Replying to: kcram (Apr 02, 2008 12:01 pm) LOL!! Hey have you read your post from March 3, 2008?   Let me quote you:   Even though Tundra numbers are up, this was still against the old smaller Tundra. They are still well below the pace they need for 200K annual units.   For the two months after that post they averaged a little over 14K units each month. I would think they would've needed to average more like 24K per month.   At the pace they are at now at 40K for 3 months that should give them around 160- maybe 170K units for the calender year. Far cry from 200K.   The Dodge numbers are spooky down 25% yikes. Replies to this message: kcram (Apr 02, 2008 2:53 pm) obyone (Apr 02, 2008 3:41 pm)
#499 of 550 Re: March sales [obyone] by kcram HOST Apr 02, 2008 (2:53 pm)
Replying to: obyone (Apr 02, 2008 12:11 pm) And I stand by that statement... they won't make 200K for calendar year 2008. But they did indeed reach their goal in the introductory year - both calendar year 2007 and for the new truck's first 12 months (Mar 07-Feb 08).   Edit - scroll back to post 73 and see how many units a month the Tundra was moving.   kcram - Pickups Host Replies to this message: obyone (Apr 02, 2008 3:41 pm)
#500 of 550 Re: March sales [kcram] by b2900 Apr 02, 2008 (3:34 pm)
Replying to: kcram (Apr 02, 2008 12:01 pm) KCRAM I agree I will find the stats to prove your statement but the Tundra did meet and exceed their goal of 200K units which is the writing on the wall for Ford Annual figures like this are awesome for any new vehicle.   My Buddy bought a New F-150 not a year ago and he was showing me that his chrome is pitting. Bear in mind I live in Canada where we use alot of road salt, however that said my Tundra has been exposed to the same amount of salt and NO chrome issues... In fact there are NO issues with my Tundra. Signed a former Ford owner.   B2900 Replies to this message: obyone (Apr 02, 2008 3:59 pm)
#501 of 550 Re: March sales [kcram] by obyone Apr 02, 2008 (3:41 pm)
Replying to: kcram (Apr 02, 2008 2:53 pm) The 200K projection was for calender year 2007 which they sold 196,555.   Their 2008 target goal is still 200K.   Quote: "Mr. Tetherow is still optimistic about the Tundra's overall sales target for the year, saying, "The sales goal for the Tundra is to still sell 200,000 (units in 2008)."   Source: Tundra production   Toyota sets the parameters of measurement for units sold per calender year. Still looks to me they did not attain their goal for 2007 nor will they be anywhere close in 2008.
#502 of 550 Re: March sales [b2900] by obyone Apr 02, 2008 (3:59 pm)
Replying to: b2900 (Apr 02, 2008 3:34 pm) Funny thing is Toyota is cutting back production on the Tundra and seems to have an abundance of Sequoias lying around too. According to pickuptruck.com Toyota has the capacity to build 300K units per year. When do you think that is going to happen at the current rate of sales?   While you criticize the sales of F150 using a rusting bumper comparison need I remind you that for March 2008 the F150 outsold the Tundra 3 to 1 and that is with a dated powertrain. Seems like bumpers aren't that important to truck owners.
#503 of 550 According to the Wall St. Journal by obyone Apr 03, 2008 (10:40 am)
Shoichiro Toyoda, a member of Toyota's founding family and the company's honorary chairman, visited the company's plant in Princeton, Ind., last October, according to a company executive familiar with the visit. "He didn't come to Indiana to commend our accomplishments; he came because he is concerned about lots of idle capacity we have in Indiana," the executive said.   Last month Toyota began tapping the brakes on production of vehicles at its San Antonio and Indiana plants to deal with rapidly cooling demand for full-size Tundra pickup trucks and Sequoia SUVs. The extent of the production cuts was not immediately clear.   The San Antonio plant can produce 200,000 full-size Tundra pickup trucks a year. The company can also produce Tundras in Indiana at a pace of 100,000 vehicles a year. The Indiana plant also produces Sequoias on the same assembly line that produces the Tundra.   Source link: Toyota feels the pinch
#504 of 550 1 to 3 by b2900 Apr 03, 2008 (1:29 pm)
I have stated here before, let us not forget the Camry, in the early 80's it was very much the same as the Tundra sale 1 to 3 sales. History speaks for itself with Camry sales.Toyota in fact is largest selling auto motive product in the world.   Ford are literally dumping their trucks so they sell. They are using unreal residuals figures to lease, and the company keeps hemorrhaging billions of dollars in losses. The results are the loyal Ford customers are not getting realistic trade in values when trading. One has to ask how long can Ford's fatal business plan last? Do they have a nice truck.. Yes. Are they building better trucks .. I truly feel they are... Have they loss the loyalty of many of their former clients? That I will not answer, I rather see what the sales figures dictate in the future.   Signed a former Ford Truck owner. B2900 Replies to this message: obyone (Apr 03, 2008 2:58 pm) b2900 (Apr 04, 2008 1:25 pm) obyone (Apr 04, 2008 1:39 pm) and 1 more... 05f150 (Apr 08, 2008 9:52 pm)

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