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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?

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What is this discussion about? Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck

    

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#489 of 577 Re: new F150 [dino6] by cruiser69

Jan 30, 2008 (3:52 pm)

Replying to: dino6 (Jan 29, 2008 8:11 pm)
Great post. A very good breakdown of the market. I am hoping and praying i can purchase a new F-150 and give America one more shot at producing a quality, long term vehicle. My biggest concern is that Ford is not as financially stable as GM and has not pumped the necessary cash into their products to get the quality back up. I own both a 1998 Mercury Grand Marquis and 2007 Hyundai Elantra but have had several American and foreign trucks over the years in the family with perfect maintenance records kept and preformed. The horror stories of the GM and Ford truck transmission problems and fires still concern me, as does the relatively weak Ford truck warranty compared to the competition. Plus the current Silverado and Sierra have the most technical service bullitons out of any other full size truck but surprisingly, Ford, Dodge, Nissan and Toyota have the least.
 
I know TSB's are not recalls but the fewer the better on the serious ones and im not talking owners manual corrections. I must be cautious when spending 30 some grand on a half ton. I drive vehicles until its no longer practical for upkeep so i am a long term buyer and loyalty lies with a product that lasts. Ford burned us with the 98-02 Grand Marquis with the defective intake and dint extend the warranty until it was too late. Even the 07 Grand Marquis is still having random electrical issues and considering the car has had few changes over the last 6 years, even the last 25 years, continuing issues with such a simple design is not acceptable.
 
The rehash of the Ford Focus also disappoints with lack of refinement, unimpressive fuel economy, and still to be tested IIHS crash tests, the only ones that really matter. I want to really give the F-150 a try but at the very least Ford should match GM's warranty to show faith in the product. Depreciation must be brought under control as well. Even though i keep my vehicles for a long while, if I total a vehicle, its depreciation is a key factor in insurance pay out, although i always get GAP insurance as its cheap piece of mind.
 
The 09 F-150 certainly looks the part and i love the many ways to custom build one. I also want a nice ride and QUIET! I will be towing possibly a HI-LO travel trailer or Airstream. So the overall towing will not be too high, allowing me to opt for the more fuel efficient combo. No need for the 10,000 pound overkill, just wastes fuel and ride quality for my needs. I cant wait to drive one. I do expect refinement, better fuel economy, and improved durability. If they deliver? Sold! If not, let em rot! Maybe breaking up Ford and hiring management who knows what the hell they are doing will correct their greedy cost cutting mistakes. Time will tell.

#490 of 577 Re: F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?? [bigo08] by 04cad

Jan 31, 2008 (11:39 am)

Replying to: bigo08 (Dec 03, 2006 11:23 pm)
have to smile every time I hear Ford's ads touting they have the best selling truck for xx years.... Considering that GM makes both the Silverado and Sierra and they are basically the same truck except for some trim pieces, GM has had the title forever. Same for the Colorado and Canyon, S10 and Sonoma. Ford just wishes they were outselling GM (Silverado and Sierra combined). If GM wasn't so hard headed they would have dropped the GMC years ago and Ford couldn't even claim to have the title.

#491 of 577 January sales by kcram HOST

Feb 01, 2008 (3:40 pm)

Jan 08 / Jan 07 / +/-
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F-Series...41,125 / 44,919 / -8.4
Silverado..36,122 / 38,393 / -5.9
Ram........19,902 / 24,379 / -18.0
Sierra......13,200 / 13,147 / 0.4
Tundra......12,073 / 6,321 / 91.0
Titan........3,692 / 5,226 / -29.4
Mark LT.....376 / 774 / -51.4
 
Bad month all around. The Tundra number is compared to the last of the old model, so still not a fair comparison... and it's much lower than what the new Tundra was doing through most of last year.
 
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#492 of 577 FYI: Ford recall by gaspasser2

Feb 02, 2008 (7:26 pm)

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080202/ford_recall.html?.v=1

#493 of 577 Paging Farmerrube! by rsholland

Feb 28, 2008 (7:16 am)

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/28/yee-haw-toyota-tundra-named-toty-by-farmers/

#494 of 577 February sales by kcram HOST

Mar 03, 2008 (1:42 pm)

Feb 08 Feb 07 +/- CY 2008 CY 2007 +/-
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F-Series / 52,548 / 55,251 / -4.9 / 93,673 / 100,170 / -6.5
Silverado / 44,096 / 58,696 / -24.9 / 80,218 / 97,089 / -17.4
Ram / 22,642 / 28,633 / -21.0 / 42,544 / 53,012 / -20.0
Sierra / 15,088 / 18,140 / -16.8 / 28,288 / 31,287 / -9.6
Tundra / 14,400 / 9,669 / 43.0 / 26,473 / 15,990 / 62.2
Titan / 3,794 / 6,058 / -39.9 / 7,486 / 11,284 / -35.0
Mark LT / 364 / 649 / -43.9 / 740 / 1,423 / -48.0
 
Even though Tundra numbers are up, this was still against the old smaller Tundra. They are still well below the pace they need for 200K annual units.
 
The American Axle strike has closed another GM plant, although they claim they have a 150-day supply of Silverado/Sierra already at showrooms. Chrysler said they had a 10-day supply of differentials for the HD trucks, then they would have to consider reduction or suspension of production.
 
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#495 of 577 March sales by kcram HOST

Apr 01, 2008 (1:17 pm)

Mar 08 Mar 07 +/- CY 2008 CY 2007 +/-
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F-Series / 54,465 / 71,481 / -23.8 / 148,138 / 171,651 / -13.7
Silverado / 42,561 / 55,626 / -23.5 / 122,779 / 152,715 / -19.6
Ram / 26,318 / 38,301 / -31.0 / 68,862 / 91,313 / -25.0
Sierra / 15,919 / 16,503 / -3.5 / 44,207 / 47,790 / -7.5
Tundra / 14,311 / 13,196 / 8.4 / 40,784 / 29,186 / 39.7
Titan / 3,869 / 7,563 / -44.9 / 11,355 / 18,847 / -39.0
Mark LT / 387 / 805 / -51.9 / 1,127 / 2,228 / -49.4
 
Tundra numbers still adjusting to the design change.
 
In contrast, Hyundai had its best March ever.
 
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#496 of 577 Re: March sales [kcram] by obyone

Apr 01, 2008 (2:29 pm)

Replying to: kcram (Apr 01, 2008 1:17 pm)
I wonder when Toyota figures it's newly designed Tundra going to hit their predicted 200K units per year? Or perhaps by now they figured that was a pipe dream? Even with their rebates, new prices, buying incentives they look to be substantially short of the 200K units. Now if we increase the time period of sales per 1.5 years they may have a chance.

#497 of 577 Re: March sales [obyone] by kcram HOST

Apr 02, 2008 (1:01 pm)

Replying to: obyone (Apr 01, 2008 2:29 pm)
From March 07 to February 08, the Tundra sold over 207,000 units. Even the calendar year 2007, they were at 196 and change. They met their target already.
 
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#498 of 577 Re: March sales [kcram] by obyone

Apr 02, 2008 (1:11 pm)

Replying to: kcram (Apr 02, 2008 1:01 pm)
LOL!! Hey have you read your post from March 3, 2008?
 
Let me quote you:
 
Even though Tundra numbers are up, this was still against the old smaller Tundra. They are still well below the pace they need for 200K annual units.
 
For the two months after that post they averaged a little over 14K units each month. I would think they would've needed to average more like 24K per month.
 
At the pace they are at now at 40K for 3 months that should give them around 160- maybe 170K units for the calender year. Far cry from 200K.
 
The Dodge numbers are spooky down 25% yikes.

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