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Pickups Ford F-Series Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??
550 messages, Last post on Nov 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM
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Replying to: cruiser69 (Jan 18, 2008 7:35 am)
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Replying to: simpilot1 (Jan 18, 2008 9:49 am) 
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Replying to: andy82471 (Jan 16, 2008 8:41 am) Anything that big is going to be only so pretty. The '08 Sierra I just bought isn't going to win a beauty contest either but it's attractive enough. The old Dodge Ram front end was great when it came out but it desperately needs to be freshened. Not sure I like the new slanting grill as well but, overall, the truck looks more streamlined thus better to me. The interior looks okay but not as nice as the F-150's it is copying wholesale, IMHO. Of course, I'm judging by photos. Personally, I like the idea of lockable dry storage on the sides of the truck though I understand the complaints from folks who'll put a shell on it. Vaguely reminds me of the Ridgeline (now that's an ugly truck!) that has a compartment in the bed floor. Of course, it's useless if you are hauling anything that'll cover it. Still features like that are nice because secure dry storage is always a problem without expensive add-ons. All in all a nice job. The full-size pick-up truck market keeps getting more and more competitive. A good thing.
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Ford comes out with a new truck & will not release horsepower numbers who are they kidding. Is this because Ford is still in last place in the horsepower wars. Comparsion below for most powerful engines in fullsize pickups. Chevrolet Silverado 367hp 6.0 liter V-8 Dodge Ram 380hp 5.7 liter V-8 Ford F-150 300hp 5.4 liter V-8 2008 Gmc Sierra Denali 403hp 6.2 liter V-8 Nissan Titan 317hp 5.6 liter V-8 Toyota Tundra 381hp 5.7 liter V-8 |
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Replying to: sknabt (Jan 21, 2008 6:26 pm) My in-laws bought a Ridgeline and after driving it for several days it is a very nice light duty vehicle. It rides and handles very well. It gets very good fuel economy. It has a fair amount of payload capacity and the in bed trunk is great to use. The standard auto 4wd and available 5,000 pound towing capacity is perfect for the average truck buyer. The frame and unibody structure combined give it a very stiff chassis. Weak points are bed length, interior appearance, and pricey for the entry level model. I suspect they will play with the design soon and spice it up a bit. The late model Pontiac GTO's were very competent sleeper cars and excelled in what they did but they were too conservative in their styling. The Ridgeline may be too much of an exercise in molded plastics and metal left in the sun too long. Its a difficult balance to get right when you want to stand out. The Ram styling will be liked, eventually. Hell, i still think the 98 Taurus was so far ahead of its time it still looks futuristic today, even the wagon version. Too bad it was a trans eating, electrical gremlin nightmare. Oh, and people still think it was ugly too. |
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The new 2008 Super Dutys are more expensive and have greater and in some cases MUCH GREATER GCWRs than the old model. The F-150 has capacities creeping up also. I think that the cost increase on the 08 Super Duty vs. the 07 and the extra capacity of the 2009 F-150 is going to allow customers who previously needed the Super Duty to get the job done to stick with the F-150. Incidently, the reason that HP wasn't released as in part to give something Ford to talk about at the next auto show. Mark.
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Replying to: mschmal (Jan 22, 2008 5:01 pm) I know you're a Ford guy in some capacity and I would appreciate your opinion. I still don't understand the limited availability of the 3050 payload package. Seems to me that would be perfect for what you are suggesting and probably heavy enough for many F250 buyers. As I remember this was first marketed a few years ago to make the F150 a great towing vehicle for lighter duty trailers. I've had two F150's set up like this and they are a perfect compromise of comfort and capacity. I know it's all about numbers and potential markets, not to mention the fact that Ford makes more money on F250's. There are some of us that prefer the ride and comfort of the F150. What do you think? |
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The reason we don't stock them at my dealer is they only come with BUTT UGLY 7 lug steel wheels. Also, with the 4.10 rear you are loosing a little fuel econ. Mark. |
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So if you saw the info on the new Ram, you will see that the dropped the leaf springs in the rear and went with coil springs. According to Rick Titus, Driver's Talk Radio, this will kill the trucks cargo and trailer towing. In addition, I know coil springs are much less able to take a beating compared to leaf springs. Ever have the springs in your car break? Anyone have insight into this? What was Dodge thinking? Or is Dodge only trying to cater to the people who "use their truck like a car"? Mark.
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Replying to: mschmal (Jan 25, 2008 10:49 am) BTW, you're flat out wrong about leaf vs coil springs. Oshkosh, the maker of huge severe-duty trucks for the military and airport service makes trucks, not only with coil springs all around, but also IFS/IRS and AWD. It's just a matter of time before this technology trickles down to consumer vehicles, and at realistic prices. http://www.oshkoshtruck.com/defense/products~wtanker~home.cfm http://www.oshkoshtruck.com/defense/products~lvsr~home.cfm http://www.oshkoshtruck.com/airportmunicipal/products~striker~home.cfm Bob
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