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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??

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#450 of 550 Re: 3050 Payload Package [markan] by cruiser69 Jan 18, 2008 (7:26 am)
Replying to: markan (Jan 18, 2008 6:23 am) Would be a nice option. However, it looks like Fords market research made it on the long wheelbase because most people who buy the long wheelbase need the extra bed length for construction work. Carrying drywall, plywood, and extra long bedrail toolchests. I agree though, should not cost Ford anything to make it available on the short wheelbase. I guess it depends if there is enough of a market for it.
#451 of 550 Re: F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?? [simpilot1] by cruiser69 Jan 18, 2008 (7:35 am)
Replying to: simpilot1 (Jan 18, 2008 12:18 am) I used to think that too. But then i saw the disclaimer and a post on here earlier that did state the numbers. Fords numbers and GM's are based on full line truck sales, including combined numbers from GM. GM includes both trucks as their sales numbers. I agree it should be more specific when advertising. I think advertising is getting away with far too much without being specific enough. Another example is Ford claiming it has more trucks on the road with 250,000 miles. Dodge claimed it had the longest lasting trucks, yes Dodge! Then of course Chevys long standing, long winded claim of longest lasting trucks on the road. Too bad that claim does not specify how many are still on the road with rebuilt engines or transmissions. That goes for all truck lines by the way. Does not count in my opinion. Original engine and transmission is the true proof. Plus, if you manufacturer hundreds of thousands of trucks, of course their will be more on the road!   Throw that in and suddenly the numbers dont look so great. Replies to this message: simpilot1 (Jan 18, 2008 9:49 am) cruiser69 (Jan 18, 2008 11:07 am)
#452 of 550 Re: F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?? [cruiser69] by simpilot1 Jan 18, 2008 (9:49 am)
Replying to: cruiser69 (Jan 18, 2008 7:35 am) I stand corrected. It is as confusing as the claims of longest lasting, most on the road etc. Have you ever heard the expression "Figures don't lie but liars figure"? It certainly applies to automobile advertising. Replies to this message: cruiser69 (Jan 18, 2008 11:07 am)
#453 of 550 Re: F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?? [simpilot1] by cruiser69 Jan 18, 2008 (11:07 am)
Replying to: simpilot1 (Jan 18, 2008 9:49 am) LOL, very true!
#454 of 550 Re: 09 F150 [andy82471] by sknabt Jan 21, 2008 (6:26 pm)
Replying to: andy82471 (Jan 16, 2008 8:41 am) "And people call the Tundra ugly. Yuck !!!!!!!!!!!!! Hideous. Chrysler is heading straight for bankruptcy." - obyone   Anything that big is going to be only so pretty. The '08 Sierra I just bought isn't going to win a beauty contest either but it's attractive enough.   The old Dodge Ram front end was great when it came out but it desperately needs to be freshened. Not sure I like the new slanting grill as well but, overall, the truck looks more streamlined thus better to me.   The interior looks okay but not as nice as the F-150's it is copying wholesale, IMHO. Of course, I'm judging by photos.   Personally, I like the idea of lockable dry storage on the sides of the truck though I understand the complaints from folks who'll put a shell on it. Vaguely reminds me of the Ridgeline (now that's an ugly truck!) that has a compartment in the bed floor. Of course, it's useless if you are hauling anything that'll cover it. Still features like that are nice because secure dry storage is always a problem without expensive add-ons.   All in all a nice job. The full-size pick-up truck market keeps getting more and more competitive. A good thing. Replies to this message: cruiser69 (Jan 21, 2008 8:53 pm)
#455 of 550 Ford F-150 Least powerful truck. by carspace7 Jan 21, 2008 (7:47 pm)
Ford comes out with a new truck & will not release horsepower numbers who are they kidding. Is this because Ford is still in last place in the horsepower wars. Comparsion below for most powerful engines in fullsize pickups.    Chevrolet Silverado 367hp 6.0 liter V-8 Dodge Ram 380hp 5.7 liter V-8 Ford F-150 300hp 5.4 liter V-8 2008 Gmc Sierra Denali 403hp 6.2 liter V-8 Nissan Titan 317hp 5.6 liter V-8 Toyota Tundra 381hp 5.7 liter V-8
#456 of 550 Re: 09 F150 [sknabt] by cruiser69 Jan 21, 2008 (8:53 pm)
Replying to: sknabt (Jan 21, 2008 6:26 pm) All good points. Competition is good. I thought the same thing about the Ridgeline initially too. But after seeing its similarities in side profile to the original Chevy Avalanche, which started out in GM cladland, they both ended up being decent vehicles with their pros and cons like anything else. The Ridgeline does have questionable styling, but i do give credit to those who try something different then the overly conservative GM truck styling, with the exception of the ugliest truck on the road today, the Chevy Colorado.   My in-laws bought a Ridgeline and after driving it for several days it is a very nice light duty vehicle. It rides and handles very well. It gets very good fuel economy. It has a fair amount of payload capacity and the in bed trunk is great to use. The standard auto 4wd and available 5,000 pound towing capacity is perfect for the average truck buyer. The frame and unibody structure combined give it a very stiff chassis.   Weak points are bed length, interior appearance, and pricey for the entry level model. I suspect they will play with the design soon and spice it up a bit. The late model Pontiac GTO's were very competent sleeper cars and excelled in what they did but they were too conservative in their styling. The Ridgeline may be too much of an exercise in molded plastics and metal left in the sun too long. Its a difficult balance to get right when you want to stand out.   The Ram styling will be liked, eventually. Hell, i still think the 98 Taurus was so far ahead of its time it still looks futuristic today, even the wagon version. Too bad it was a trans eating, electrical gremlin nightmare. Oh, and people still think it was ugly too.
#457 of 550 Super Duty to equal Commercial Duty? by mschmal Jan 22, 2008 (5:01 pm)
The new 2008 Super Dutys are more expensive and have greater and in some cases MUCH GREATER GCWRs than the old model.   The F-150 has capacities creeping up also.   I think that the cost increase on the 08 Super Duty vs. the 07 and the extra capacity of the 2009 F-150 is going to allow customers who previously needed the Super Duty to get the job done to stick with the F-150.   Incidently, the reason that HP wasn't released as in part to give something Ford to talk about at the next auto show.   Mark. Replies to this message: markan (Jan 23, 2008 1:37 pm)
#458 of 550 Re: Super Duty to equal Commercial Duty? [mschmal] by markan Jan 23, 2008 (1:37 pm)
Replying to: mschmal (Jan 22, 2008 5:01 pm) Mark,   I know you're a Ford guy in some capacity and I would appreciate your opinion. I still don't understand the limited availability of the 3050 payload package. Seems to me that would be perfect for what you are suggesting and probably heavy enough for many F250 buyers. As I remember this was first marketed a few years ago to make the F150 a great towing vehicle for lighter duty trailers. I've had two F150's set up like this and they are a perfect compromise of comfort and capacity. I know it's all about numbers and potential markets, not to mention the fact that Ford makes more money on F250's. There are some of us that prefer the ride and comfort of the F150. What do you think?
#459 of 550 Heavy Duty Payload package. by mschmal Jan 25, 2008 (10:48 am)
The reason we don't stock them at my dealer is they only come with BUTT UGLY 7 lug steel wheels.   Also, with the 4.10 rear you are loosing a little fuel econ.   Mark.

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