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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??

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#431 of 544 Re: December and full-year sales [sknabt] by 1offroader Jan 05, 2008 (10:48 am)
Replying to: sknabt (Jan 05, 2008 7:36 am) sknabt Excellent post, many good points. I also know some folks who just shop Honda, or just shop Toyota. Back in the 60s & 70s you were an 'idiot' if you bought anything made in Japan - it was mostly cheasy junk. Then, the tide began to turn in the late 70s/early 80s when Japan went quality-oriented, while Detroit languished and rode its momentum into the ground. Then, thru the 90s and 00s you were an 'idiot' if you bought anything from Detroit. That tide is now turning also. Funny what competition does (Root hog, or die!) But, it takes awhile for folks to see it. Humans are basically herd animals, and it takes a while for a herd to undergo a change of thinking. That's happening now with the Tundra vs. Big3, and it is magnified when Japan shows its soft underbelly - a desire for profits over quality, same as Detroit. However, I think the Japanese corporate culture allows for a faster recognition and fixing of the problems. Toyota will fix the problems and design errors, pronto. It won't take decades. If Detroit lets up Toyota will turn the tables in their favor - again.   Where I disagree with you is your comment that building better trucks doesn't help the Big3. Wrong. It helps immensely. Look at total Big3 sales vs. Tundra. Tundra is a small fraction. Subtract out the "brand snobs" who only shop Toyota (50%??), and you have about 100,000 buyers who actually looked at all the offerings and still bought the Tundra. And how many of those actually work their trucks hard?   Toyota has a looooong way to go to really crack that market, but I wouldn't necessarily bet against them.   1offroader
#432 of 544 Tundra works that hi-way hard... not them fields... by farmerrube Jan 05, 2008 (11:18 am)
It be yuppies who buy them forien ones... then they work them ones on that hi-way ride to them office buildings and grocery stores and such. But that workin man... he buys them big3 ones, them the ones with that haul. That tundra frame and tailgate is snappin if put to work any, thats the facts on that one now! We need trucks too work that field and such, not ones that bust and rust. It's not about no trends, it's about haul. Facts is facts. Good luck on this one now! Replies to this message: h20 (Jan 05, 2008 7:23 pm) cruiser69 (Jan 07, 2008 7:33 am) farmerrube (Jan 07, 2008 5:43 pm) and 2 more... obyone (Jan 07, 2008 11:21 am) osellr (Aug 01, 2009 4:18 pm) farmerrube (Aug 02, 2009 4:02 pm)
#433 of 544 Re: Tundra works that hi-way hard... not them fields... [farmerrube] by h20 Jan 05, 2008 (7:23 pm)
Replying to: farmerrube (Jan 05, 2008 11:18 am) run scarred cuz yuppiies are runnin up your bumm they are cummin to get ya and youl have to buy that jap make ya dont want tah cuz it is tha best ta keep that farm going ya no . open yur back woods eyes and see its commin ats ya all!!! buy the best not the american trade mark you think is the best. facts is facts right. or i could say imho over and over again. Replies to this message: cruiser69 (Jan 07, 2008 7:33 am) farmerrube (Jan 07, 2008 5:43 pm) cruiser69 (Jan 08, 2008 8:26 am) and 1 more... obyone (Jan 07, 2008 11:21 am)
#434 of 544 Re: December and full-year sales [kcram] by cruiser69 Jan 07, 2008 (7:26 am)
Replying to: kcram (Jan 03, 2008 1:35 pm) Thanks for the info! I knew the figure was close for the Tundra.
#435 of 544 Re: Tundra works that hi-way hard... not them fields... [h20] by cruiser69 Jan 07, 2008 (7:33 am)
Replying to: h20 (Jan 05, 2008 7:23 pm) LOL, way to go, H20. I have had wonderfuly detailed replies to his ranting but what a suprise, no response. Looks like he should stay in dem fields and off the forums...never left the county now...using some of his own product i thinks........yeszereeee.... He like pictures of dem trucks on his farm...a relic...rustin away. Replies to this message: farmerrube (Jan 07, 2008 5:43 pm) cruiser69 (Jan 08, 2008 8:26 am) farmerrube (Jan 08, 2008 1:08 pm)
#436 of 544 Re: Tundra works that hi-way hard... not them fields... [h20] by obyone Jan 07, 2008 (11:21 am)
Replying to: h20 (Jan 05, 2008 7:23 pm) You ever get that unidentifiable noise fixed on your Tundra? Ever figure out what it was?   Good luck on this one now.
#437 of 544 Re: Tundra works that hi-way hard... not them fields... [cruiser69] by farmerrube Jan 07, 2008 (5:43 pm)
Replying to: cruiser69 (Jan 07, 2008 7:33 am) That one you be callin that relic is workin hard well over 50 years now. We hauled with that one as a younger. But where is all them hi-lux and t100 ones gone? Rustin and bustin, the way of them forien ones now. That tundra got that camry frame and sheet metal, good for workin that hi-way, but not them farms now. What part of this one aint folks gettin? Try workin that tundar one in them fields, then see which one gets parked quicker now! Facts is facts on this one now. Good luck on this one now! Replies to this message: cruiser69 (Jan 08, 2008 8:26 am) farmerrube (Jan 08, 2008 1:08 pm)
#438 of 544 Re: Tundra works that hi-way hard... not them fields... [farmerrube] by cruiser69 Jan 08, 2008 (8:26 am)
Replying to: farmerrube (Jan 07, 2008 5:43 pm) Already answered all of your questions rube....scroll back and read the replies for a change. T-100 is not a full size truck. If you search online, most t-100's are still running and have at least 250,000 miles, and no rust. Plus their resale is higher than any of the old stuff you got. Compare the right classes rube. 1/2 ton to 1/2 ton, 3/4 to 3/4 and so on. You dont compare a 3/4 ton to a 1/2 ton. Problem with understanding or something? When Toyota and Nissan do make 3/4 tons, you bet they will be in them fields. New GM trucks got 88 technical service bullitons for all kinds of engine, electrical and drivetrain problems. Your trucks never leave the fields so what does that prove? Its called using a tractor rube. Its cheaper to operate and maintain. Your crop is not that heavy anyway.   Plus a Camry does not have a frame, it has a unibody. The first generation Tundra, not t-100, had a fully boxed frame with eight crossmembers, no one else did at the time of its introduction. But again, i already said that. Toyota trucks dont sell where you live because of back water discrimination from people like you, afraid of change. I bet you still own a Zenith tv from the 70's. Thank God the good Lord invented an ignorance control method known as passing away. Replies to this message: farmerrube (Jan 08, 2008 1:08 pm)
#439 of 544 Re: Tundra works that hi-way hard... not them fields... [cruiser69] by farmerrube Jan 08, 2008 (1:08 pm)
Replying to: cruiser69 (Jan 08, 2008 8:26 am) Your wrong on them ones fella... that factory called them t100 ones and them littler tundra ones "full size" now. That factory even called them hi-lux ones 3/4 tonners now! Facts is facts on that one now. So your tellin us that factory tricked folks back then now? What is too say that factory aint still trickin folks with that new tundra one now? And if all them forien ones is still workin, where is them ones? You sure you put that eyeball on them ones? Nope, them ones is rustin and bustin... that is where them hi-lux ones is. Get ya a big3 one if you plan on workin that one any, get ya that tundra one if ya plan on gettin tricked or fad chasin! Good luck on this one now!
#440 of 544 Ford only builds CRAP by mschmal Jan 10, 2008 (12:46 pm)
People think Ford just can't build a reliable desirable car.   Check out the Fusion/Milan problems and solutions board.   mschmal, "Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan Maintenance & Repair" #1, 7 Mar 2007 8:51 am   I started this forum back in March of 07 and there are ALREADY 34 posts!   Mark

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