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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??

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What is this discussion about? Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck


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Re: Tundra vs. GMC Sierra [kcram] by h20
Jan 01, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: kcram (Dec 30, 2007 5:39 pm)

I agree no payola on Edmonds, (100%). understood. I will toe the line boss.
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2009 Ford F-150? by mschmal
Jan 02, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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What surprise does NAIAS hold in store? What the 2009 F-150 better offer if Ford wants to stay on top.
 
1st are given. Things that Ford needs or they should just close.
- Stability Control standard.
- Curtain air bags standard.
- Interior upgraded to similar to Expedition only with push through controls for radio and HVAC as Focus and Escape
 
Now things I think Ford MUST do for the 2009 Ford F-150.
 
- 6 speed Auto trans.
- 3.5L V6 with 250HP and 250LBFT of Torque possibly replacing the 4.6L
- Keep the 4.6L only with the 3V head from the Mustang/Explorer for 290hp and 325 LBFT of torque.
- Enhance the 5.4L to at least 350hp/390 LBFT
- BOSS 6.2L V8 with 380hp/450 lbft of torque
- 4.4L Diesel 330 hp/ 500+ lbft of torque.
- tail gate step and bed extended from Super Duty.
 
WISH LIST
IRS from Expedition
3.5L V6 twin force with 28mpg.
Hydraulic Hybrid with 60mpg city.
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Re: Yeah right... [andrew9] by kboynton1
Jan 02, 2008 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: andrew9 (Dec 17, 2006 8:05 pm)

all you guys arguing about whos the better truck. Now as for payload and all that i'll tell you right now. To the average consumer anymore nobody cares anymore. Shameful fact about today's consumer is that people only care about looks; if it looks tough then it must be strong. Right now the truck that has it beat with tough looks is the Tundra, sorry to those who feel i'm and idiot but you know its the truth. Now i'm not saying the Tundra has highest payload, I'm not even saying its the strongest pickup out there. But you gotta admit, it looks like a tough truck, therefore everyone's gonna go for it for its looks not its power. So out of who i think is gonna go out on top? Unless the F-150 can step up its tough looking game, then the Tundra currently has it beat and it will continue until Ford changes the F-150's look to a more, tough and powerful look.
 
Tough Looks Ratings:
 
1) 2008 Toyota Tundra
2) 2008 Ford F-150
3) 2008 Dodge Ram 1500
4) 2008 GM Silverado/Sierra
5) 2008 Nissan Titan
6) 2008 Honda Ridgeline (as for looks, its not pretty with non tough looks like Titan, but its rediculous on how hard Honda tried, thierfore it got last on my list)
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Folks chasin fads and looks.. but what bout them that works them ones? by farmerrube
Jan 02, 2008 (6:16 pm)
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We need ones with haul... like them big3 ones. We work them trucks, on that farm now. Trouble with them forien ones is they bust or rust... so they aint last long or workin hard.
 
We still work this 52 haulin...

 
We haul these trains... six to seven of them ones... nose to tail now...

 
Can that tundra work them fields and last long? Can that tundra haul six to seven trains, day in and out, year to year? Them big3 ones do now, thats for sure. What say too this one now? Good luck on this one now!
#424 of 550
Re: Yeah right... [kboynton1] by obyone
Jan 02, 2008 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: kboynton1 (Jan 02, 2008 6:03 pm)

Tough looks rating?
 
Looks are subjective. Some might say the Tundra is ugly. Does ugly equate to toughness? One thing Toyota is not known for is styling.
#425 of 550
Re: Folks chasin fads and looks.. but what bout them that works them ones? [farmerrube] by mule4
Jan 03, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: farmerrube (Jan 02, 2008 6:16 pm)

Rube the picture would have looked better if the truck would have been hooked to the trailers. There are a lot of old trucks setting in fields that are broke down.I own a new tundra that pulls a Jayco 34 ft. tt 7500# dry wt. 9500# loaded.1115# tongue wt. It pulls it good in hills & mts.I have out pulled chev. & fords in the mts.The frames that posters say are weak Don't seem to be a problem.About some posters saying the truck is ugly that don't matter to me.The new chev. p/u looks like a sway back horse.The cab sets lower than the front & the bed.Besides that we all have different views on looks.The tundra is the best truck i've owned equal to a dodge diesel i had.Some folks think the new chev. & fords are the best & are not having trouble go to their forums & look & look again in 2 or 3 years Lots of problems will be showing up by then.
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December and full-year sales by kcram HOST
Jan 03, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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..............Dec 07 / Dec 06 / +/- / CY 2007 / CY 2006 / +/-
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F-Series / 55,069 / 70,580 / -22.0 / 690,589 / 796,039 / -13.2
Silverado / 53,560 / 52,396 / 2.2 / 618,257 / 636,069 / -2.8
Ram / 32,118 / 32,875 / -2.0 / 358,295 / 364,177 / -2.0
Sierra / 19,782 / 17,541 / 12.8 / 208,243 / 210,736 / -1.2
Tundra / 19,219 / 12,468 / 54.1 / 196,555 / 124,508 / 57.4
Titan / 4,785 / 5,575 / -14.2 / 65,746 / 72,192 / -9.2
Mark LT / 551 / 1,155 / -52.3 / 8,382 / 12,753 / -34.3
 
Toyota damn near made their target... give 'em credit, although it took some massive incentives to do it.
 
Ford took a beating this year; loss of over 100,000 units is a problem.
 
The 09 F150 and Ram 1500 will both debut at Detroit/NAIAS in a couple of weeks, so Toyota and GM will see if the bar was matched or raised.
 
kcram - Pickups Host
#428 of 550
Re: Folks chasin fads and looks.. but what bout them that works them ones? [farmerrube] by cruiser69
Jan 04, 2008 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: farmerrube (Jan 02, 2008 6:16 pm)

Its all about size and capacity. If Nissan and Toyota decide to make 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks, of course they can. By the way, hauling six to seven trains down a public highway is illegal. How the heck do you turn a corner? When we hauled fully loaded grain wagons, which are much heavier then the crop your showing on there, we could only legally tow two at a time. Plus, im sure your driving very slow, otherwise you would get far too much sway. Again, unless your driving in a straight line, i dont see how a six or seven trailer road train can turn a corner. Sorry.
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Re: Folks chasin fads and looks.. but what bout them that works them ones? by farmerrube
Jan 04, 2008 (7:18 pm)
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Replying to: mule4 (Jan 03, 2008 8:46 am)

Eyeball that front tire on that 52... notice that tire aint flat... and got that mud around it? That mud got there workin that one... it sure aint parked any now! We got us a boneyard with some ones in it now... but that 52 and a few others is still workin hard. We haul them trains field to field now... not on them twisty streets! Trouble with them forien ones is rustin and bustin. If them forien ones is lastin so long, where is all them hi-lux ones gone too? Answer that mystery now... and you will be closer too that truth on them forien ones, thats for sure. Good luck on this one now!
 

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