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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??

550 messages,  Last post on Nov 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM

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What is this discussion about? Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck


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Re: F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?? [bigo08] by kyle11
Dec 27, 2007 (9:36 pm)
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Replying to: bigo08 (Dec 03, 2006 10:23 pm)

I think that it will stil be the best.
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Honda by kyle11
Dec 27, 2007 (9:37 pm)
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The Honda Ridgeline stinks.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: BLINK BLINK [iqbaldhillon2] by kyle11
Dec 27, 2007 (9:39 pm)
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Replying to: iqbaldhillon2 (Dec 09, 2006 11:00 am)

Dodge is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Tundra vs. GMC Sierra [sknabt] by h20
Dec 29, 2007 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: sknabt (Dec 27, 2007 6:43 pm)

since you took dilivery on your gm and the only reason you were posting here was because you were researching trucks i presume you will not post here again,.please don't misunderstand this as an attack on you. happy hollidays. if you do keep posting you will have made my point paid by who?????
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Is any folk workin that tundra? by farmerrube
Dec 29, 2007 (9:04 pm)
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Would like to hear a tell on how them ones is doin in the fields and such. Is them beds twistin and tailgates bustin? Any rust popin on them ones yet? Them forien ones got thinner metal... pops rust quicker. That be the way of them ones now. Seems like most folks is workin that hiway with them ones... not fields. Plenty of them big3 ones is workin hard, but what of them forien ones? Good luck on this one now!
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Re: Tundra vs. GMC Sierra [h20] by kcram HOST
Dec 30, 2007 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: h20 (Dec 29, 2007 4:08 pm)

Enough with the payola accusations. Or someone paid by Edmunds will do something about it. Understood?
 
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Re: Flexy beds cant be worked hard in fields! [farmerrube] by cruiser69
Dec 31, 2007 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: farmerrube (Dec 27, 2007 7:49 am)

Hey Rube...we grew up on farms too with F 250's and Cheyenne 2500's with 454 V8's. You know as well as i do that real farm work must be done with heavy duty 3/4 tons or more. Half tons are not and never will be designed for heavy duty use. You can put as big a springs and lift kits and big tires on half tons all you want but that does not change the fact that the frame is not designed for extreme duty work. The Super Duty Fords today still use a version of the Twin I beam suspension, which to this day is unmatched by anyone in terms of payload and towing capacities simply because its the strongest known design to be used in light to medium duty pickups such as the F-450 and 550.
 
Ford, Chevy, and Dodge all must be loaded with options and properly equipt to do any kind of heavy work anyway. I agree 100 percent that the bed flex is unacceptable but any auto manufacturer tries to get away with putting as little strength into a vehicle structure as possible to see what they can get away with before adding more strength to it. Its so they can maximize profits. Its just good business. Ever slam the door on a 2007 Ford F-150 extended cab? The doors wobble and shake like waves in lake michigan. The dash is cheap plastics held together with spit and glue. The days of 200,000 mile gas pickups are over.
 
Anyone can beat the hell out of a vehicle but there is no comparing trucks from the glory days when you could work on them and they used heavier steel. Those trucks are dying out. Plus they were a pain to start in the winter, rusted bad, sucked fuel, and did not provide much horsepower. The gearing was so low in some you didn't dare to go over 55 miles an hour with split rims and 8 ply tall tires.
 
Todays trucks are better by leaps in bounds in every category. The Tundra will fix the problems it has, quickly. God knows the somewhat Big Three has had more than their share of recalls, fires, trans problems, four wheel drive problems, and everything else under the sun. The 2008 F-Series Super Duty Diesel just had early problems with flames shooting out of the tail pipe due to the emissions control system. Dont let the most dependable slogan from GM fool you either.
 
That is based on active full line truck registrations, that does not tell you how many of those trucks have rebuilt engines, transmissions, or rebuilt titles. Plus, GM has manufactured far more trucks combined than Ford so simply saying more are on the road is misguided. Of course their are because more are manufactured so odds are more will be on the road.
 
Their was nothing wrong with the first generation Tundra. It got excellent fuel economy, offered an 8 foot bed, had a decent payload amount, towed a decent amount, and had a very strong frame. It was fully boxed with eight crossmembers, something Ford and GM did not have on their half tons. We were still given the soft suspension, squishy brakes GM half tons and Fords crash test failing F-150.
 
Its GM and Ford who played catch up design wise to the structural integraty of the Tundra and towing duties of the Nissan Titan at the time of their introduction. The Tundra was squeak and rattle free. The same trucks built at the same time from Ford, GM, and Dodge were not. The Nissan Titan set the new standard in half ton towing capacities in its introduction. Ford simply bumped its numbers up with no changes to the drivetrain whatsoever. This is not the first time Ford has been accused of overreporting numbers...remember the Mustang Cobra?
 
I think all light truck companies tend to overexaggerate the vehicles true capabilities.....they may be able to do those maximum numbers...but i sure would not do it for very long.
 
Bottom line is, Toyota has more work to do. So does Nissan. But GM, Ford, and Dodge certainly are not the perfect half tons either. Anything will break if you beat it long enough, no matter who makes it.
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Re: Tundra vs. GMC Sierra [kcram] by h20
Jan 01, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: kcram (Dec 30, 2007 5:39 pm)

I agree no payola on Edmonds, (100%). understood. I will toe the line boss.
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2009 Ford F-150? by mschmal
Jan 02, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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What surprise does NAIAS hold in store? What the 2009 F-150 better offer if Ford wants to stay on top.
 
1st are given. Things that Ford needs or they should just close.
- Stability Control standard.
- Curtain air bags standard.
- Interior upgraded to similar to Expedition only with push through controls for radio and HVAC as Focus and Escape
 
Now things I think Ford MUST do for the 2009 Ford F-150.
 
- 6 speed Auto trans.
- 3.5L V6 with 250HP and 250LBFT of Torque possibly replacing the 4.6L
- Keep the 4.6L only with the 3V head from the Mustang/Explorer for 290hp and 325 LBFT of torque.
- Enhance the 5.4L to at least 350hp/390 LBFT
- BOSS 6.2L V8 with 380hp/450 lbft of torque
- 4.4L Diesel 330 hp/ 500+ lbft of torque.
- tail gate step and bed extended from Super Duty.
 
WISH LIST
IRS from Expedition
3.5L V6 twin force with 28mpg.
Hydraulic Hybrid with 60mpg city.

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