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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??

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What is this discussion about? Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck

#393 of 550 Re: Truck of the year. [mschmal] by b2900 Dec 23, 2007 (10:27 pm)
Replying to: mschmal (Dec 23, 2007 8:43 pm) I remember the Ford Taurus being the biggest selling car then came the Camry. This blog is exactly about Tundra doing the same in the future. I am sure you may be correct that Ford has a superior frame but I am confident that Tundra will perform just well. Ford’s record speaks for itself they have far more issues with quality then they care to admit. Having the distinct honor of highest recalled car in history the Ford Focus. With regards to Ford tucks having the highest number of truck with high miles on the road likely is correct as well but rest assured that is being challenged one Tundra at a time.Ford boast quality is job #1 Toyota simply build quality, its their way, not their job.
#394 of 550 Re: Truck of the year. [obyone] by kcram HOST Dec 24, 2007 (1:52 pm)
Replying to: obyone (Dec 23, 2007 9:58 pm) Wasn't in production yet. The Motor Trend "___ of the year" testing is done in the fall, and the stipulation is, the vehicle must be in retail production when the testing is done... otherwise it qualifies for the following year's competition.   kcram - Pickups Host Replies to this message: b2900 (Dec 24, 2007 2:31 pm) obyone (Dec 24, 2007 6:05 pm) h20 (Dec 24, 2007 7:06 pm) kcram (Dec 24, 2007 8:24 pm) obyone (Dec 25, 2007 1:24 am)
#395 of 550 Re: Truck of the year. [kcram] by b2900 Dec 24, 2007 (2:31 pm)
Replying to: kcram (Dec 24, 2007 1:52 pm) I can only assume that there were no new 2008 models by any other company. Or another assumption would be it and the Silverado was a tie last year and it would on;ly be given that the Tundra would be this year truck(I am sure that will cause a reponse for GM owners!) Anyways Merry Christmas to all and a healthy New Yaer! Replies to this message: obyone (Dec 24, 2007 6:05 pm) h20 (Dec 24, 2007 7:06 pm) kcram (Dec 24, 2007 8:24 pm) obyone (Dec 25, 2007 1:24 am)
#396 of 550 Re: Truck of the year. [b2900] by obyone Dec 24, 2007 (6:05 pm)
Replying to: b2900 (Dec 24, 2007 2:31 pm) "Or another assumption would be it and the Silverado was a tie last year and it would on;ly be given that the Tundra would be this year truck"   There may have been a response but I don't quite understand your previous statement. Replies to this message: h20 (Dec 24, 2007 7:06 pm)
#397 of 550 Re: Truck of the year. [obyone] by h20 Dec 24, 2007 (7:06 pm)
Replying to: obyone (Dec 24, 2007 6:05 pm) Merry Christmas.
#398 of 550 Re: Truck of the year. [b2900] by kcram HOST Dec 24, 2007 (8:24 pm)
Replying to: b2900 (Dec 24, 2007 2:31 pm) The Silverado/Sierra HD and Ford Super Duty were also in this year's TOY competition, as they did not begin production until after last year's contest was completed. Motor Trend always claims that trucks are scored against their direct competition, so the Tundra was rated against all the current half-tons, as opposed to the heavy pickups which were rated against each other and the Dodge Ram HD.   The F-150 and Ram 1500 will both start production this coming summer, so both will be available for 2009 TOY honors.   kcram - Pickups Host Replies to this message: obyone (Dec 25, 2007 1:24 am)
#399 of 550 Re: Truck of the year. [kcram] by obyone Dec 25, 2007 (1:24 am)
Replying to: kcram (Dec 24, 2007 8:24 pm) Autoblog.com describes it best in their article regarding the MT testing and award.   Autoblog   Quote out of context, "Our money was on the F-450 for this award, as the truly super truck from Ford is rather peerless in the market. But we're not the editors of Motor Trend, and it's their award to give to whomever they choose. We're sure they're ready for the onslaught of armchair automotive journalism that's coming their way."   Course we all have our opinions.
#400 of 550 Re: Truck of the year. [obyone] by sknabt Dec 25, 2007 (6:22 am)
Replying to: obyone (Dec 23, 2007 9:58 pm) "While it is true that a new or redesigned vehicle is a requirement, the Tundra was redesigned for the model year 2007 and NOT 2008. So the question remains why was the Tundra the MT Truck of the Year for 2008 when it was introduced in 2007 as a 2007 model?"   My understanding is the '07 Tundra wasn't ready in time for the '07 TOTY. The rumor is the Tundra was delayed to tweak its interior to better match GM's (keep working on that Toyota). I imagine that's why they held it over to '08 so it'd get a shot.   Motor Trend ran a separate competition of the '07 Silverado against the '07 Tundra. The Silverado won but, in fairness to Toyota, the Tundra did very well, maybe even a tad better. The vehicles Motor Trend got from the manufacturers for the piece weren't very well matched in equipment and the bloated price of the Tundra ended up tipping the scales against it.   I can't blame GM ('07) and Toyota ('08) for including TOTY in their marketing hype. but TOTY is a meaningless award. Even Motor Trend admits their criteria for inclusion in the competition is so restrictive too few trucks go head to head to make it interesting or meaningful. They're stuck with this mess as long as they stick to TOTY being a copy-cat of COTY. Replies to this message: b2900 (Dec 25, 2007 4:23 pm)
#401 of 550 Re: Truck of the year. [sknabt] by b2900 Dec 25, 2007 (4:23 pm)
Replying to: sknabt (Dec 25, 2007 6:22 am) This may help you understand how MT make the decisoin and yes this video does state that there were few trucks to review as trucks will retain the designs for several years unlike cars. http://www.motortrend.com/av/of_the_year/112_2008toty_toyota_tundra_winner
#402 of 550 Re: Truck of the year. [mschmal] by autuer Dec 26, 2007 (2:08 pm)
Replying to: mschmal (Dec 23, 2007 8:43 pm) Thought you'd be interested in seeing some *other* youtube videos about Tundra, posted by real owners, not scam "race" videos by the company.   Excessive Tundra Bed bounce due to weak frame: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U6KmwB2LyY   Massive Bed bounce and twist captured in Torsional reaction video study of F150, Silverado, and Tundra (hint: Tundra sucks) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjTbiYo3x0   Enjoy. Replies to this message: sknabt (Dec 26, 2007 7:33 pm)

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