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#347 of 577 TRUCK OF THE YEAR by b2900

Dec 18, 2007 (3:30 pm)

Motor Tread announced today just after 1PM that the 2008 Tundra is the truck of the year!
 
http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=7513296
 
I do stand to be corrected for the sales stats. By the end of this month Toyota could possibly see 200 thousand trucks sold in the year of 2007 All other pick up sales were down Tundra had an increase When comparing current Tundra sales against its former, smaller self, only the first two months of 2007 were lower than their comparable periods in 2006. Then, starting in March, Tundra sales exploded, and were up over 120% (i.e., more than double) in May, June, and July compared to the same period in 2006. In fact, if Toyota sells just 18,518 Tundras in August 2008 (it sold 23,150 in July), it will have already matched its total sales for 2006. Through the first seven months of 2007, Toyota has sold an average of 15,141 Tundras per month; extrapolating that through December 31, and Toyota is on pace to sell 181,692 trucks, which is almost 46% more than it did in 2006 (but short of its sales goal of 200,000 trucks in its first year). However, if Toyota can sell July's total of 23,150 trucks per month for the rest of 2007, it will have sold 221,740, and blown away its goal. I don't see any signs of the juggernaut slowing down; sales have increased in each month the truck has been on sale, so meeting their goals - which seemed laughable in the truck's first few months - seems almost inevitable now.
 
Against its competition, the Tundra's sales are even more impressive. The full size pickup segment is down 4.7% so far in 2007, and every competitor is showing negative sales year to date but Toyota, which is up 56.5%. It's a tough market in which to sell a full size V8 powered pickup with the housing market slowing down and high gas prices, which makes this feat even more impressive. So, whose lunch is the Tundra eating, if its sales are way up in a falling segment.
B2900

#348 of 577 MotorTrend? That is for cars? by farmerrube

Dec 18, 2007 (5:29 pm)

That MotorTrend is for cars now... what about us folks who work them trucks? Can that tundra work that farm without bustin? Seem to recall that little tundra, that t100, and even them hilux ones got that same award from MotorTrend... yet none of them worked no farms or lasted long. What does that tell on this award now? Good luck on this one now!

#349 of 577 Re: MotorTrend? That is for cars? [farmerrube] by mule4

Dec 18, 2007 (6:09 pm)

Replying to: farmerrube (Dec 18, 2007 5:29 pm)
I doubt your a farmer . if you were you would'nt have time to be on a computer as much as you are. I was a cattle farmer I sure did'nt have the extra time.About that 1952 gm .I had a 1952 1/2 chev.power glide trans I think that was the yr. model.. With most of the older gms. rusted out bad, fenders, floor boards door jams to name a few. they had that problem several years.Your's problem not any different.The tundra will do all i want it to do.Thats all that matters I paid for it my self It may not be the best but it sure is better than the 2004 z71 I had time will tell.

#350 of 577 Re: TRUCK OF THE YEAR [b2900] by bugchucker

Dec 18, 2007 (7:04 pm)

Replying to: b2900 (Dec 18, 2007 3:30 pm)
Anyone with half a brain could tell you that the Tundra is the best truck by far.
I would never need a magazine to tell me something so obvious. I guess these anti Toyota people need more proof about who builds the best truck. The Canadians also named the Tundra best truck as well.

#351 of 577 Re: TRUCK OF THE YEAR [bugchucker] by maple2

Dec 18, 2007 (8:07 pm)

Replying to: bugchucker (Dec 18, 2007 7:04 pm)
Anyone with half a brain could tell you that the Tundra is the best truck by far.
 
you are correct, anyone with only half a brain probly would think the tundra is best by far

#352 of 577 Re: TRUCK OF THE YEAR [maple2] by obyone

Dec 18, 2007 (8:41 pm)

Replying to: maple2 (Dec 18, 2007 8:07 pm)
LMAO!!

#353 of 577 Re: TRUCK OF THE YEAR [b2900] by mrgroovski

Dec 18, 2007 (10:05 pm)

Replying to: b2900 (Dec 18, 2007 3:30 pm)
Motor Tread announced today just after 1PM that the 2008 Tundra is the truck of the year!
 
Motor Trend picked the Silverado for 2007. The 2008 Silverado is essentially the same as the 2008 Tundra, except we now know how meaningless the Truck of the Year award is. They should have jumped on the Tundra tailgate and watched it crack, or taken into account the 2007 Tundra recalls. Oh well, Motor Trend never picks the same truck twice.
  
However, if Toyota can sell July's total of 23,150 trucks per month for the rest of 2007, it will have sold 221,740, and blown away its goal.
 
They need to sell something like 23,150 in December just to reach the 200K goal. That could be difficult, because they only sold 14,988 last month.
 
I don't see any signs of the juggernaut slowing down; sales have increased in each month the truck has been on sale, so meeting their goals - which seemed laughable in the truck's first few months - seems almost inevitable now.
 
The 200K goal is not inevitable. It's reachable if they up the already large incentives on the Tundra, but who knows if they're doing that?
  
Against its competition, the Tundra's sales are even more impressive. The full size pickup segment is down 4.7% so far in 2007, and every competitor is showing negative sales year to date but Toyota, which is up 56.5%.
 
Well, let's see. Up 56.5% for Toyota means they sell about, what, 5,000 extra Tundras a month? That's what Ford/GM sell in a day or two. It's not hard to grow sales like that when you develop a new model and have a huge marketing campaign. They spent $100 million to sell 60K more trucks this year. That works out to $1,600 per truck. Considering the incentives of up to $4600 they have offered to move these things all year, they are spending even more, not to mention that shiny new Texas factory they are officially ashamed of.
 
So, whose lunch is the Tundra eating, if its sales are way up in a falling segment.
 
Their own previous Tundra owners, mainly:
http://www.autoobserver.com/2007/03/toyota_tundra_m.html
http://www.autoobserver.com/2007/04/pickup_truck_in.html
 
This article states 10% conquest rate on trade-ins from the Big 3:
http://www.autoobserver.com/2007/09/toyota-tundra-f.html
 
I think they blew their own math, and it's actually about 20%. Any way you slice it, the Tundra conquest sales appear pretty insignificant.

#354 of 577 Re: TRUCK OF THE YEAR [mrgroovski] by mrgroovski

Dec 18, 2007 (11:06 pm)

Replying to: mrgroovski (Dec 18, 2007 10:05 pm)
Whoops, I forgot that Motor Trend TOTY is that absurd award that only applies to "new" trucks.
 
To make the award even more absurd this year, they compare the Tundra to the only real new trucks this year, a few heavy duty 2500s and 3500s, and F450s if you can believe that. It's apples and oranges. Then they slam the big Chevy for it's fuel economy, and the F-450 for feeling "enormous and ponderous"? Of course it is compared to the Toyota, you morons, it's a totally different class of vehicle!
 
No buyer in their right mind would ever be comparing the Toyota to these trucks.

#355 of 577 Re: TRUCK OF THE YEAR [mrgroovski] by b2900

Dec 19, 2007 (5:11 am)

Replying to: mrgroovski (Dec 18, 2007 10:05 pm)
I remember thinking just like you 20 years ago about the Camry, Thinking why would people buy this car, well Camry is major seller if not the highest selling car in the market. In one year the Tundra sales figures are very impressive to say the least. If the Camry did what it has, the Tundra could very well eventually be in the same sales figures in the future. I sincerely am not here to kick stones rather I would like nothing better than seeing a better truck/car and in my opinion the Big Three is being challenged and that is good. If you are a Ford/ Dodge/ GM buyer rest assured your next truck will be built better and perhaps have a better resale value as a result of the Toyota Tundra raising the scale. That’s not bad now is it?

#356 of 577 Re: MotorTrend? That is for cars? [mule4] by farmerrube

Dec 19, 2007 (8:37 am)

Replying to: mule4 (Dec 18, 2007 6:09 pm)
We work that tabacco farm with them trucks.. and we work them trucks hard now. Never head of no cattle farm now... was you meanin to say cattle ranch? That 52 GMC sure aint rustin or bustin, and we still workin it hard now. As for them tundra ones... we heard folks tellin of them tailgates bustin off, what say too this? How is them tunda ones gettin awarded for bustin tailgates? So much for them awards. We need ones that work hard and last long, not ones gettin awards from them magazines now. When is that forien factory goin figure this one out now? If your workin them farms and such, best stick with them big3 ones, thats for sure. Good luck on this one now!

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