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Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck
#32 of 577 Nonetheless.
Apr 21, 2007 (6:13 am)
1. Silverado and Sierra are not divisions of General Motors, they are the names of two different models of truck made by two different divisions of General Motors, Chevrolet and GMC.
2. In 2006, Chevy sold 705,980 Silverados and GMC sold 210,736 Sierras for a total of 979,902.
3. In 2006, Ford sold 796,039 F-Series trucks.
4. Ford claims that F-Series is the best selling truck name plate. Since 796,039 is higher than either 705,980 or 210,736, this statement is true.
5. the New redesigned Silverado/Sierra is still not as good a truck as the 2004 F-150.
a. F-150 reg cab has best in class payload at 3050 lbs. vs. 1952 for Silverado.
b. F-150 can tow 2,300 more lbs than Silverado.
c. F-150 has four whee vented disc brakes. Standard on Silverado are rear drums.
d. F-150 uses a fully box frame with hydro formed front frame rails and through welded cross members. Silverado does not use hydro forming and does not use through welded cross members.
e. F-150 has outboard mounted shocks which provide greater stability than the splayed shocks on Silverado.
f. F-150's 5.4L engine has more torque than Silverado's 5.3L and only 10 lbft less than Silverado's heavy, expensive, gas guzzlin' 6.0L
g. Ford also offers a regular cab with 4 door access and behind the seat storage. Silverado does not.
I could go on and on but the point is that GMs "new" truck is only about as good as a 2003 F-150.
Apr 21, 2007 (12:22 pm)
and the f-150 sold 700,000 with just one nameplate no gmc + chevy crap gmc and chevy are 2 different names thus means that ford outsold them per company
#34 of 577 Re: Nonetheless. [mschmal]
Apr 22, 2007 (10:09 am)
Yea' whatever there both pretty much the same truck from the same Company. When talking about the best selling full size truck, General Motor's full size truck's out sell Ford year after year< fact! Also about GM's new truck, You talking about the one thats "Motor Trend 2007 Truck of the year"? The one that's class leading 367hp, the one that will tow 10,500lbs. And when you talk about expensive, Ford parts have always been just about double the cost of GM and not to mention the Ford's require more shop time to fix the same problem compared to GM. And last but not least ford truck's have always been just butt A$$ ugly! O' yea and ride quality that Ford is just slightly better then a Dodge! By the way how is Ford doing these day's? How's that Ranger selling? They even closed the plant in St. Paul that had a hydro-Gen and produced it's own power! All because they cant give those junk Rangers away! I could go on and on but i think i've made my point, Haven't and Will Not out sell General Motor's full size truck's, So Get over it!! Jay...
#35 of 577 Motor Trend car/truck of the year.
Apr 23, 2007 (9:32 am)
In order to qualify for this award, a car or truck has to be new or redesigned. The F-150 would not have qualifed as it was a carry over from 2004.
#36 of 577 Re: Motor Trend car/truck of the year. [mschmal]
Apr 23, 2007 (9:38 am)
Yea and what does that say about Ford truck's and Ford as a Company? Going down hill and fast!
#37 of 577 Re: Nonetheless. [93gmcdrivermn]
Apr 23, 2007 (6:39 pm)
That post was very funny. Explain to me how the Chevy/GMC light duty pick ups outsell the F-series?
In terms of reliability the F-series was the best of the LD pickups until they released the latest version. While the Ranger is an old design it remains a solid vehicle. I'd rather take an enema than own or drive the absolute worst small pickup ever built, the S-10. And the new Canyon/Colorado seems to be following in that fine tradition. They're horrible.
And, just how well is GM doing nowadays? How many billions have they lost in the last two years?
#38 of 577 Nonetheless. (dustyk)
Apr 23, 2007 (8:37 pm)
Look it up! GM's silverado and Sierra together have consistantly out sold the F-150 I was told GM wouldn't have ever even built the s-10 but had to keep Ford honest. And you said it your self
F-series "WAS" the best of the light duty pickup's! My 93' Sierra sle z-71 is by far better then any 93'F-150 in ride,look's for sure,easyer to work on and parts are alot cheaper! Lastly GM is doing alot better then Ford! get over it!
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#39 of 577 Re: Spec's for Fullsize Pickups 2007 [kgford]
Apr 23, 2007 (11:58 pm)
Yep' and you could put 3050 lbs in a Silverado and get it to squat like a Beeooch too! Big Deal! How's the drivability on any 1/2 ton with that kind of weight? Not good i don't care what brand it is. The GM'S are still better looking by far, better riding, easyer to work on and parts as always are cheaper then Ford. O'yea did i mention The 2007 Motor Trend Truck of the year
I need say no more!
#40 of 577 My favorite "Like a Rock" ad.
Apr 24, 2007 (6:59 am)
Anyone remember the "Like a Rock" magazine ad that showed the truck standing in for a life boat on a ship?
What was that suppose to mean? That you would sink like a rock?
BTW. S-10 Blazer has the highest fatality number for miles driven of any other vehicle on the road today.
#41 of 577 My favorite PINTO ad:(mschmal)"LIKE A TORCH"
Apr 24, 2007 (8:42 am)
Yea' I don't believe they make a s-10 blazer anymore and your point is? Anyway i seem to remember a car back in the 70's that would burst into flames with a rear impact that
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