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#232 of 551 Re: One more time... [12ozcurls] by 1offroader Oct 20, 2007 (5:29 pm)
Replying to: 12ozcurls (Oct 20, 2007 5:07 pm) Yikes! That's RIDICULOUS!!! The tailgate should be able to hold ANY reasonable load, including ATVs. Hunters live and breath ATVs. Can't imagine anyone who hunts buying one to haul his ATV.   Those tailgate seams are GLUED or PUTTIED together! The sheet metal is JUNK! My Silverado has the optional EZLift feature, but it's a heavy sucker and closes with authority.   I haven't heard that before, nice post 12oz. This will help that quality rumor and increase sales for sure....   What can Toyota do about that? They're all like that, so they can't recall them.   Gad, every time I see that stuff I'm so glad I didn't drop 40 large on a Tundra. The Silverado ain't perfect, I have some complaints, but they're mice nuts compared to Tundra issues.   1offroader
#233 of 551 Re: One more time... [1offroader] by obyone Oct 20, 2007 (5:33 pm)
Replying to: 1offroader (Oct 20, 2007 5:15 pm) Just back from the Toyota dealership. Looked at a black Crewmax but didn't test drive. The texture on the dash resembles a sprayin bedliner for some reason. Didn't bother scratching it. And I would agree the orange peel especially on black is disturbing reminding me of GM and their paint problems in the 80's.   The salesman did mention they have huge discounts + rebates on all of the new Tundras with the 4.7 as no one seems to be interested in them at a $1000 difference from the 5.7.   Interesting enough he had no clue on CR's recent report giving their 4WD model Tundra an "unreliable" rating as well as the V6 Camry. He said the Camry was Motor Trends Car of the Year to which I said Motor Trend doesn't check for reliablilty and if they did well what could you say? On the door next to the sticker it does have the NHTSA crash rating of four stars for driver and passenger and 3 stars for rollover.   When leaving I told him to give me his card and if I buy a Tundra I'll be sure to buy it from him.   Man that post by 12oz sure is disturbing about the weight that the tailgates could or should I say can't support. Replies to this message: anythingbuttoy (Oct 20, 2007 5:51 pm)
#234 of 551 Re: One more time... [obyone] by anythingbuttoy Oct 20, 2007 (5:51 pm)
Replying to: obyone (Oct 20, 2007 5:33 pm) This thread at TS is 5 pages long, but read posts #65 and #69. So much for "Yeah, but Toyota takes care of it's customers".   http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/tundra/113646-transmission-fault-identifie- - - - - d-5/   Yep, now this is a "quality" truck, huh Doc?   We'll see how their sales figures look after people pull their heads out of the sand and see this stuff.   http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/tundra/111758-2007-tundra-seat-pops/   The "Quality" paint jobs aren't going to help maintain sales growth either.   http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/tundra/114504-poor-paint-quality-new-2007-- - - tundra/   With this kind of "Quality" (or lack thereof), Toyota isn't going to be catching anyone in sales numbers.
#235 of 551 Re: As long as [drfill] by kgford Oct 20, 2007 (10:23 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Oct 18, 2007 5:20 pm) Dr Fill,Often imitated. Never duplicated.        You try, and that's what's important. Don't ever forget it. DrFill   Your expression perfectly describes Ford F-series trucks. It takes me less than 3 minutes to explain why ford is and has been the truck leader for over 30 years and they never set foot on a toyota lot again when looking for a real truck. And a real fully boxed and thru welded crossmember frame can hold over 3,000 lbs compared to your toyotas under 2,10 lbs.
#236 of 551 A Not-So-Happy Ford-to-Toyota Convert by anythingbuttoy Oct 21, 2007 (6:56 am)
So Doc and Spyder,    It seems not all of your Ford to Toyota converts are all too happy with their decision. How will this affect sales conquests in the future as more and more people see the "real" Tundra?   http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/tundra/114504-poor-paint-quality-new-2007-- tundra/ See Post #8:   "Ultra thin paint on all these things. If you look at it funny it will leave a scratch down to the primer. Worst paint job on any new vehicle I have ever owned.   Between the bad paint, painted dash, cheap plastics, collapsing tailgates, spongy soft bed, etc...and not counting for the real problems people are having with these things...I am official selling mine. I've spent 3 weekends installing amps, speakers, nav, etc. and unless somebody wants to pay for it I will be taking it out. Only good news is that it comes out in 1/10 the time it went in.   I have owned Ford trucks in the past and never had the issues with them I've had with this Junkra. I admit I like the look and power...but I want a truck I can use and not have to worry about. I never worried about my Ford truck.   Whenever Toyota gets the kinks worked out I may be back. But then again I may not since I will be losing money on this POS.   PS you can check my prior posts if you think I'm trolling. I own this thing and I'm really just sick of worrying about it. I want a truck that will give me piece of mind and the new Tundra is not it.   Toyota is human too I guess." Replies to this message: h20 (Oct 21, 2007 5:29 pm)
#237 of 551 tap tap tap by kcram HOST Oct 21, 2007 (12:16 pm)
Pointing out posts on other sites has nothing to do with sales... don't be the one that gets this discussion closed down too.   kcram - Pickups Host
#238 of 551 I think the point being made here is by obyone Oct 21, 2007 (12:42 pm)
that the Tundra sales will have absolutely no impact whether the Ford F150 retains its position or not. Some Toyota zealots tend to believe that it will but are seriously kidding themselves.
#240 of 551 Re: Marketing 101 [kdhspyder] by blckislandguy Oct 21, 2007 (4:49 pm)
Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 19, 2007 9:54 pm) Dear K-spyder,   Thanks.   I'd love to have you though address my two major points.   1) How does the extra "step" in their distribution system add any value to the consumer? Seems to me that it doesn't take a Harvard MBA to realize that this extra layer of overhead simply adds cost. Monopolies never benefit anyone except the monopolists. Isn't the France family of NASCAR fame the Southeast "distributor"?   2) Rather than having quasi-monopolistic "distributors" configure the vehicles for their areas, I'd feel a lot better if individual consumers, real live consumers, could pick and choose what they options they wanted to buy. I realize that this is bottoms-up approach is alien to the Japanese cultural system but it seems to work well here. You might find for example that a lot of NYC customers have second homes up in the Adirondacks or Catskills. Or maybe out on the Islands (Fishers, Block Island, Nantucket, etc.) and would rather order, buy and have their 4X4 Tundra serviced at their home dealer in NYC than at a dealer in upstate NY or in RI.   How Toyota decides to do business is, of course, their business. But for American truck buyers who are used to an open spec book (I think you can even get leather as an option on the Chevy 1500 Work Truck!) and direct factory to dealer pricing, this may not be the best approach. Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Oct 21, 2007 6:15 pm) blckislandguy (Oct 21, 2007 6:44 pm) obyone (Oct 21, 2007 9:20 pm) kdhspyder (Oct 22, 2007 5:08 am) and 3 more...
#241 of 551 Re: A Not-So-Happy Ford-to-Toyota Convert [anythingbuttoy] by h20 Oct 21, 2007 (5:29 pm)
Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 21, 2007 6:56 am) Had someone tell me the other day that they did not like anything at all about toyota tundra or (toadra) yet they bought one? go figure. Don't believe everything you here on the internet. What a shame.Do reaserch consider your options and make your best choice. btw I have never bought anything because someone else or most people were buying it. Its the sheep following the sheep. h20

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