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Pickups Ford F-Series Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??
550 messages, Last post on Nov 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM
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Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 20, 2007 6:19 am) No Kidding !!!! Why do you think I put that link there with that title? Helllooo. Do you catch the significance? Hmmmm. Ok let me help you. GM has not yet allowed the IIHS to test the new GMT900s. There are no ratings for it yet!!!!!! So as I noted when Mr/Mrs Shopper go looking at safety ratings they see the GM trucks on the bottom of the rankins possibly not seeing the distinction that the rating is for the old fashioned, and highly unsafe, 'Classic'. This is why I preferenced the link by saying that GMs Marketing has fallen on its collective face by allowing the Silvy and Sierra to remain on the bottom of the list for 13 months now!!!! In addition to 'accuracy' you need to read between the lines. Now why would GM not allow the IIHS to test the new GMT900s. Are they afraid of something? Hmmmmm, 13 months on the market and nothing yet. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 20, 2007 7:55 am) Tundra has kicked their tail up and down the block, causing plant closings. Ford and GM haven't even reloaded yet. Pretty soon, -2% might be a great year? You sure the Steinbrenners don't own GM?  DrFill
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Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 20, 2007 6:27 am) I have seen the reference to painted interior plastic parts on the Tundra now several times. Are you sure about that? I also note that it hasn't been refuted by the Tundra fans, so maybe it's true. I dunno. I looked at the Tundra, and sat in it, and hated the cheesy appearance which is one of several reasons they couldn't sell one to me, even though I owned a Toyota pickup at the time. In fact my 2 previous pickups were Toyotas. But PAINTED PLASTIC?!?!?!? That alone will help kill sales. My 85 and 92 Toyota pickups had pretty decent interiors, and no painted plastic. Out of curiosity, what color is the plastic underneath the paint? What if it's lead-based chinese paint? Would you allow a little kid inside who might rub the paint and lick his hands afterward? Yikes! Sales killer! Sales killer! 1offroader
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 20, 2007 7:13 am) But it lost some refinement and livability in the redesign. |
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Replying to: 1offroader (Oct 20, 2007 8:38 am) Yes, and there is no disputing it. The Tundra's dashboard and interior panels are painted. They are gray plastic underneath. Here is a link to one of several threads about it over at TS: http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/tundra/110309-has-this-happened-to-your-da- - - sh/ The entire dash is painted, and folks have been having issues with scratches in the paint exposing the gray underneath. You're not the only one! I'm resigned to cheap plastic interiors. But a painted dash? Dumb, IMO.
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 20, 2007 8:02 am) Yeah, Tundra caused them...LOL Toyota sells maybe 50K more Tundras than in the past and GM, who sells nearly a million/year has to close plants because of it. hahahahahha Your funny!!!! |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 20, 2007 7:55 am) I have no idea why the GMT900's have not been tested by the IIHS yet, but I would bet it isn't because they are "scared". They did score 5 of 5 stars in the NHTSA tests, they have no reason to be scared, they are just as safe as any other truck out there, including the Tundra. Actually, safer than Tundra according to the NHTSA tests. There are not too many truck buyers who buy based on front crash tests alone anyway, and I am guessing 99.9% of new truck buyers know the difference between a "Classic" GMT800 and a NBS GMT900. I bet that didn't affect sales by even ONE.
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Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 20, 2007 12:54 pm) I have a recently bought used ranger that I really dislike so I'll take a trip down to the Toyota dealership and see first hand on that dash. I wonder if they would mind if I ran a fingernail across the dash to test the paint? If is scratches maybe they'll give me a better deal on a trade with the Ranger. 
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Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 20, 2007 1:04 pm) I'm not sure at all that it didn't affect sales at all because what noone can see is lost opportunities. If the research done at home or at work where one or the other decision makers discovers the IIHS rankings and BLAM...the GMs are excluded from consideration from the outset. It might be a former F150 owner, who might have worked at the closed Norfolk Assembly plant and is POd at Ford, who is now looking to unload the previous Ford and finds the GMs at the bottom of the IIHS list. 'Well lets look at that new Tundra that's all over the TV.' Lost opportunity. |
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 20, 2007 4:28 am) http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/tundra/114436-tundra-tailate-failures-i-am- -club/
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