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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??

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What is this discussion about? Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck


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Re: One more time... [anythingbuttoy] by drfill
Oct 20, 2007 (4:28 am)
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Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 19, 2007 6:56 pm)

I KNOW a domestic fan isn't commenting on quality.
 
   DrFill
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Re: As long as [kdhspyder] by anythingbuttoy
Oct 20, 2007 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 19, 2007 9:31 pm)

Spyder, speaking of "accuracy", the IIHS link you provided shows the "Classic" GMT800's, not the GMT900's. Might want to read more carefully, or less selectively.
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Re: One more time... [drfill] by anythingbuttoy
Oct 20, 2007 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 20, 2007 4:28 am)

I KNOW a domestic fan isn't commenting on quality.
 
You "know" nothing Doc. You simply have an opinion, which is biased and flawed.
 
How do I define quality?
1. 25+ years of driving GM's with ZERO major issues or breakdowns. Many vehicles driven well over 100K miles, some 200K+.
2. Compare the build quality between the new Tundra and the GMT900's sometime. Look at the interior materials used and the finish (Even Fisher Price doesn't paint their plastic parts). Look at sheet metal gauge used, panel gaps, frame design/construction.
 
Quality does NOT mean throwing a high HP, fancy DOHC engine with questionable camshafts and a fancy problematic 6 spd tranny into a cheaply built, riveted together truck and proclaiming superiority because it's "fast". Not gonna fly in this market, sorry.
 
This is my opinion, beleive what you want, and I'll beleive what I want and in time (not 1st year sales of first offering), we'll see how many buyers agree with me and how many agree with you.
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Re: As long as [anythingbuttoy] by drfill
Oct 20, 2007 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 20, 2007 6:19 am)

Yeah, Spyder!
 
   Can we at least watch them flaunt their 2nd-rate image before you bash them for it?
  
   What's that all about?
 
   DrFill
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Re: As long as [drfill] by anythingbuttoy
Oct 20, 2007 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 20, 2007 6:28 am)

You mean like Tundra's 2nd rate image in the NHTSA tests and the new CR report?
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Re: One more time... [anythingbuttoy] by drfill
Oct 20, 2007 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 20, 2007 6:27 am)

Compare the build quality between the new Tundra and the GMT900's sometime. Look at the interior materials used and the finish (Even Fisher Price doesn't paint their plastic parts). Look at sheet metal gauge used, panel gaps, frame design/construction.
  
   I have that work sub-contracted out. I have people.
  
   http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=119281
  
   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cu-press-room/pressroom/archive/2004/07/eng04- 07car.htm?resultPageIndex=1&resultIndex=6&searchTerm=toyota+tundra
  
   They're pretty good at it.
  
   I sleep very, very well.
  
   DrFill
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Re: One more time... [drfill] by anythingbuttoy
Oct 20, 2007 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 20, 2007 6:35 am)

Ahh, I see, basing opinions of a brand new completely redesigned 2007 Tundra on 2004 CR article. That makes sense!!! What's the matter, the new CR reports aren't in your favor? LOL
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Re: One more time... [anythingbuttoy] by drfill
Oct 20, 2007 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: anythingbuttoy (Oct 20, 2007 6:41 am)

 
What's the matter, the new CR reports aren't in your favor?
  
    Actually, they are!
  
   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/past-road-test/full-sized-pickups-9-07/o- - verview/0709_car_ov.htm
 
   It is lonely at the top.
  
   DrFill
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Re: One more time... [drfill] by kdhspyder
Oct 20, 2007 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Oct 20, 2007 4:28 am)

Ya know what's even more ironic....the source for that comment is the 'Scourge of Detroit', 'the most unethical and biased group on the planet', 'the rag that Toyota has in its back pocket'.....
 
CONSUMER REPORTS !!!!!!!!!!
 
The world has turned upside down. Gotta love it.

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