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You are in the Ford F-Series
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Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck
#115 of 577 August sales
by kcram HOST
Sep 04, 2007 (12:20 pm)
...........Aug 07 / Aug 06 / +/- / CY 2007 / CY 2006 / +/-
F-Series...69,220 / 76,804 / -9.9 / 481,146 / 545,963 / -11.9
Silverado..67,486 / 51,185 / 31.8 / 425,379 / 434,937 / -2.2
Ram........32,309 / 34,177 / -5.0 / 246,878 / 250,144 / -1.0
Sierra.....23,574 / 17,564 / 34.2 / 138,759 / 142,129 / -2.4
Tundra.....18,919 / 11,173 / 69.3 / 124,909 / 78,916 / 57.5
Titan.......6,985 / 5,650 / 23.6 / 45,766 / 50,178 / -9.2
Mark LT.......768 / 1,007 / -23.7 / 5,858 / 8,519 / -31.2
Silverado on the F-Series' heels. The fall push will be critical for Ford, and they have two strikes against them:
- the F150 is a lame duck
- people are skittish about the new Powerstroke in the Super Duty trucks
Tundra and Sierra are in a serious dogfight for 4th place.
kcram - Pickups Host
#116 of 577 One more strike.
Sep 05, 2007 (5:33 am)
We are basically out of 07s.
#117 of 577 Re: HP and Trucks. [mschmal]
Sep 06, 2007 (7:51 am)
The GMC 5.3L is rated at 315hp and 338 lbft. The Ford 5.4L is rated at 300 hp but has 365 lbft of torque. Most people who buy trucks agree that torque is more important than hp.
Also, the F-150 XLT with 5.4 for $895 and Trailer Tow package for $350 has a Tow and Go Discount at the bottom of the sticker of $1,000. This to me means that the 5.4L is free and it also means all dealers order their all XLTs with 5.4L engines which IMHO makes it practically standard.
In your previous post, you were talking about "horsepower." When I pointed out the Chevy 5.3 L had more horses than the 5.4 L, you start talking about torque and how much more important it is. That's all well and good but you weren't talking about torque originally.
Also, you stated all dealers order the XLT trucks with the 5.4 L because it's "free." I don't know about the discount you are talking about but I do know not all XLT Fords have the 5.4.
#118 of 577 Ford F not really #1 in sales
Sep 29, 2007 (3:54 pm)
GM allows Ford to have the number 1 slot. The Chevy and GMC trucks are essentially the same vehicle and combined sales have been greater than Ford for years.
#119 of 577 The F150 crewcab that I had for a rental for a week
Sep 29, 2007 (10:45 pm)
was a slouch empty. I can just imagine what it would be like to drive it with the advertised 3050 lbs. of payload. Well I guess they can advertise what ever they want no one said they had to pull it with any gusto.
#120 of 577 That's Ford's new slogan!
Sep 30, 2007 (4:22 am)
Doing the job. We didn't say doing it well.
You'll figure it out! Buyer beware.
#121 of 577 Re: The F150 crewcab that I had for a rental for a week [obyone]
Sep 30, 2007 (7:51 pm)
3050 payload is an option on only a few models, and not avaialble on the F-150 Super Crew you drove.
#122 of 577 Re: The F150 crewcab that I had for a rental for a week [rsholland]
Sep 30, 2007 (11:49 pm)
Ahhh ok it sucked empty. Now all I have to do is imagine a regular cab longbed with a 3050 lb payload....
#123 of 577 Tundra can do 0 to 60 in about 6.5 secs.
Oct 01, 2007 (5:28 am)
If that is why you are buying a truck, Ford is not building a truck for you.
The F-150 uses the most expensive truck frame on the market today and it is by far the strongest. It is Hydroformed under engine and cab and fully boxed from front to rear.
The Tundra frame is welded where it is boxed and c-channel the rest of the way.
The F-150 uses fully boxed cross beams that pass through the frame rail and are welded on each side.
The Tundra uses stamped cross beams that are riveted.
The fact is that the F-150 is much more likely to be the truck that rides like new at 200,000 miles.
Also the 4.7 V8 on Tundra STILL uses a timing belt.
#124 of 577 Re: Tundra can do 0 to 60 in about 6.5 secs. [mschmal]
Oct 01, 2007 (7:20 am)
on your last post you mentioned the tundra uses a timing belt as opposed to timing chain. do you happen to know if the nissan titan uses a chain or belt. am deciding between the 5.3 silverado and the titan to purchase. i assume the chevy uses chain?