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Ford F-150, Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, GMC Sierra 1500, Nissan Titan, Car Buying, Truck
#104 of 577 Re: Should have fired design team long ago! [fordchris]
Aug 08, 2007 (11:36 am)
I think Ford trucks are pretty decent, but they're definitely dated compared to the competition (Dodge is dated too). Payload is high because it is essentially a "HD" version, but no way can it pull 11K safely. I test drove the GMC, Toyota, Dodge, Ford, and Nissan, and there was no question that the most lethargic of all of the trucks was the F150. Every other vehicle felt considerably stronger. So, while it may "technically" be able to pull that amount, there is no way you're going to be confident doing it or enjoy driving with that kind of load. At that point you should be looking at a 3/4 or 1 ton anyway... especially if you're doing that on a regular basis.
Still, Ford sells a lot, but sales for their trucks are continually dropping. The housing market is taking its toll and gas prices aren't helping. By 2009, there will be a pickup (pardon the pun) in sales, but if gas and housing construction continue to be barriers, it won't last long, and the bigger issue is whether they'll be able to come out with the same interior quality while matching it up with a much stronger powertrain at a competitive price... time will tell I guess...
#105 of 577 "Feels Stronger"
Aug 10, 2007 (3:11 am)
Ok I think there is no question that GMC 6.0L, Dodge Hemi, and Toyota with the 5.7L offer more HP than the Ford 5.4 L.
However, the Ford 5.4 is stronger then the base engins in these trucks and becaues if its much lower cost it IS the standard engine in everything but a work truck.
Also, the Toyota 4.7 still has a timing belt? whats up with that? Anyone know the cost to replace that at 60k?
Aug 10, 2007 (5:38 am)
Don;t know what the intervals are, but timing belts last longer than 60k nowadays... I'm guessing 105k like the rest of them.
#107 of 577 F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer??
Aug 10, 2007 (8:58 am)
Who knows, peoeple have been asking that same question for years now. But at the end of every year when all the smoke clears Ford always comes out on top.
The only one really with a chance to over take them ever is Chevrolet, Dodge never will and and there are not enough Metrosexual men in America to sell enough Toyota's for them to ever get close. It takes more then fancy mis-leading commercials to be on top in the truck market.
Aug 14, 2007 (9:32 pm)
lets face it all truck commercials try to make trucks look like the best.....anyways tundra is the best truck so far.
#109 of 577 a truck nobody cares about?
Aug 14, 2007 (9:34 pm)
also nobody counts the mitsubishi raider as a truck i wonder why?
#110 of 577 Re: "Feels Stronger" [mschmal]
Aug 15, 2007 (6:55 am)
You don't need to compare the GMC 6.0L to the Ford's 5.4L when GMC's 5.3L has more HP than Ford's 5.4L!!!!!
Also, the 5.4L is not the standard engine in everything but a work truck. You have to move up to a Lariat or FX4 before getting a standard 5.4L. There is an exception such as the XL extended cab long bed comes with the 5.4 but the XL extended cab short bed does not.
#111 of 577 HP and Trucks.
Aug 15, 2007 (1:09 pm)
The GMC 5.3L is rated at 315hp and 338 lbft. The Ford 5.4L is rated at 300 hp but has 365 lbft of torque. Most people who buy trucks agree that torque is more important than hp.
Also, the F-150 XLT with 5.4 for $895 and Trailer Tow package for $350 has a Tow and Go Discount at the bottom of the sticker of $1,000. This to me means that the 5.4L is free and it also means all dealers order their all XLTs with 5.4L engines which IMHO makes it practically standard.
#112 of 577 Ford F150 blown out spark plugs
Aug 18, 2007 (10:25 am)
I'm sure that most of you already know about the problems with the blown out spark plugs but thought I'd put my two cents in. Driving thru town in my '04 F150 when a loud pop noise occurred only to find out that #3 plug and coil had completely blown out of the cylinder head. The head's threads are stripped and now I am forced to have the head retapped and a new assembly installed for around $900 (although Ford wants you to buy a new cylinder head for $3500). Come to find out this is a really big problem (see consumeraffairs.com) with all the modular engines and Ford has known about it for several years and refuses to do anything about it - although they have issued a technical bulletin and have also been sued for this problem and lost. Ford needs to step up on this one or many owners will be switching to a Toyota or another more reliable vehicle in the future.
#113 of 577 Re: Ford F150 blown out spark plugs [jim04ford]
Aug 21, 2007 (9:46 am)
Many are making the switch already.