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98 Disco 4.0 Upper Engine Knock?

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Oil pump failure by merediths
Jan 20, 2007 (8:18 am)
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I have a 2003 Disco and the oil pump went out on me. 1400 to repair and they aren't sure if it has done any engine damage. They are saying at least $10,000 if the engine went out. Only 57,000miles. I am so scared right now. Any suggestions on what to do if the worst case scenario comes true. It has been in EXCELLENT condition until this. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks. Poor Texas Girl!
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Re: Oil pump failure [merediths] by pummell
Jan 31, 2007 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: merediths (Jan 20, 2007 8:18 am)

I have a situation very similar to yours. 03 Disco, just had its 60k service ($1000) in Dec 06 now last Friday the oil pump failed. I tried to work with the Land Rover North America customer reps, no resolution. I went to the NHTSA and submitted a complaint, this is the start of a potential recall process. I recommend you do the same and if you hear of anyone with the same issue have them do it also. That is the forum to get resolution. I have had two Land Rovers, now both have had significant service problems that Land Rover wouldn't help with. They were right owning one is an adventure, good luck.
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Land Rover 2003 Discovery Oil Pump Failure by pummell
Jan 31, 2007 (3:53 pm)
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Land Rover owners and potential owners beware. I just had my $1000 60,000 mile service a month later the oil pump failed. It cost $1700 to fix. I tried to work with Land Rover at the corporate level and no help. Their opinion is that it is my responsibility.
 
Be very very careful before purchasing a Land Rover. I have now owned 2 and both have had significant flaws one led to a coolant recall and I am now working the oil pump issue. I think it is time to shop for a Jeep or Toyota.
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Re: Land Rover 2003 Discovery Oil Pump Failure [pummell] by aariz1
Feb 22, 2007 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: pummell (Jan 31, 2007 3:53 pm)

hey guys,
   2003 discovery 4 days after warranty expired, the oil light went on and the engine blew. 44K miles. Land Rover told me tough luck. There is a Tech Alert they issued for the 03 and 04 discoverys regarding a defect in the oil pump. I'm fighting them. If you have the same problem or hav had it, contact me and I'll give you the alert and who to talk to over at Land Rover. thanks
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Re: Land Rover 2003 Discovery Oil Pump Failure [aariz1] by horsecorgi
Mar 02, 2007 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: aariz1 (Feb 22, 2007 7:29 am)

We have had the EXACT same problem, down to the mileage. 44,274 miles (changing the oil every 3,000 miles)and the oil light went on and the engine blew. Our warranty ended 28 days before this happened. Land Rover of Milford said they'd pay for 1/2 the engine. We knew about the oil pump problem, however they said it would have blown by 20,000 miles of that was in fact the problem. Now I hear about you and the other person at 57,000 miles. Obviously there is a serious issue if all of these oil pumps are blowing out. I am going to file a complaint with the NHTSB like the other person, maybe if we all do something can get done. Keep me updated and I'll do likewise.
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Re: Oil pump failure [pummell] by horsecorgi
Mar 02, 2007 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: pummell (Jan 31, 2007 3:49 pm)

Did you have any luck? We had the exact same thing happen and thanks to your suggestion, just filed a complaint with the NHTSA. Let me know what LR did for you, if anything. This is our 2nd Discovery and our first problem in 10 years with them. They have always been great for us until now.
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Re: Oil pump failure [horsecorgi] by paris1099
Mar 08, 2007 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: horsecorgi (Mar 02, 2007 4:10 pm)

Hey guys, im new to this forum but wanted to put my two cents in as well. I purchaced my Disco '03 in July of '06 with 34,000 miles on it. About a week ago (at 44,000 miles) the oil light came on and I noticed heavy leaking from the hoses on bottom. Anyways, I took it in and yes, it was the oil pump for me as well. They said the gear broke in 3 places. I believe that since I have the extended warranty they it will be covered, but what really got me upset was the fact that they were going to charge me $360 for the disassemble to get to the pump to find out the problem.
 
I dont know how severe the damage is. I am assuming that it isnt that bad since i cought it in time and there was no knocking or wraping. But this should be something that '03 Disco Owners should be aware of and Land Rover should make a more Pro-active attempt to let the owners know, since they do have the Vin numbers of what cars could be affected by this.
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Re: Land Rover 2003 Discovery Oil Pump Failure [horsecorgi] by mike191
Apr 08, 2007 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: horsecorgi (Mar 02, 2007 3:24 pm)

Hello, i am in the same situation. I purchased a used 2003 Discovery and i was driving on the highway when the oil pump failed which caused immediate engine failure. The Disco had 53,000 miles on it and has been into a Land Rover dealer 4 times within the past 10 months for oil changes, brake pads and general scheduled checks. I was never informed of any potential problems and had no warning of this from car. The Land Rover dealer could give me no information as to why this happened and offered no help. They said they would fix it for $9900.00. Have you had any luck and what is NHTSB. Any help would be great.
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Re: Land Rover 2003 Discovery Oil Pump Failure [mike191] by aharper2
Apr 13, 2007 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: mike191 (Apr 08, 2007 6:49 am)

I love Land Rover, but am currently in a nightmare. I have a 96 Disco, which has been super dependable. Only regular maintenance care & recently replaced the water pump. My husband bought me a 2003 Disco II for Christmas in 2006, which approx 46,000 miles. In January 2007, while driving the car it made a muffled pop noise & died. There were chunks of metal & oil underneath. We had the car towed home as the dealership is hours away. There was approx 52,000 miles on it, so no luck with a warranty.My husband figured it was the front engine cover/oil pump. I did some research & found that there was a technical alert issued by LR to it's dealerships titled "2003 Discovery Series II Oil Pump Failures" (T03 1201) on March 14, 2003. It advises that the dowel pins on the block do not align correctly with the oil pump. This in turn causes oil starvation & ultimately engine failure. It clearly states the defect is a result of the manufacturing error. From what I have read, LR dealers are being difficult in addressing these issues & in some instances won't even tear down the engine to show the cause, but won't cover it unless they are shown the cause. My husband pulled it apart & found the front engine cover/oil pump cracked. Upon removing it, the damage is extensive. We are not sure if the valves are shot yet. I called LR Customer Relations & advised of the issue & the alert. I was advised there are no recalls & to tow it to the local dealership (which is hours away) & have them look at it. I have called the local dealership in Encino , Ca & am pending a call back from the service manager. I did place a complaint with NHTSA. I believe that if LR was aware enough to issue an alert on the manufacturing defect which causes engine failure, they should do a recall.

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