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Toyota Sienna Uncontrolled Acceleration

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Re: Should i buy 2010 Sienna? [khanection] by bertha06
Jun 25, 2009 (11:11 pm)
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Replying to: khanection (Jun 25, 2009 9:16 am)

I'm sure if you asked Toyota, they would say there never was a problem, but all of us that have posted what happened to us, know better. I myself would never ever consider buying another Toyota product, which, by the way, Lexus is. I noticed someone in an earlier post had a similar problem with a Lexus. Before I bought my Sienna, (new, I was the only owner) I looked at Consumer Reports, etc. I decided that Toyota and Honda minivans appeared to have the best ratings, and decided on the Toyota. That will never happen again. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Re: Brakes and Throttle failed at the same time? [bertha06] by ateixeira
Jun 29, 2009 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: bertha06 (Jun 25, 2009 10:50 pm)

I'm not a professional mechanic but I have bled the brakes. Pretty standard.
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Re: Brakes and Throttle failed at the same time? [ateixeira] by bertha06
Jun 30, 2009 (3:51 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 29, 2009 7:59 am)

I think this is more of a computer problem than an actual brake problem. This is a quote from my owner's manual under the section titled EVENT DATA RECORDER:
 
 "Your vehicle has computers that monitor and control certain aspects of your vehicle. These computers assist in driving and maintaining optimal vehicle performance. Besides storing data useful for troubleshooting, there is a system to record data in a crash or a near car crash event. This is called an Event Data Recorder (EDR).
The SRS airbag sensor assembly contains the EDR. In a crash or a near car crash event, this device may record some or all of the following information:
     Engine speed
     Whether the brake pedal was applied or not
     Vehicle speed
     To what extent the accelerator pedal was depressed
     Position of the transmission selector lever
     Whether the driver and front passenger wore the seat belts or not
     Driver's seat position
     Front passenger's occupant classification
     SRS airbag deployment data"
 
This is the end of my quote from the owner's manual, however, it does go on to say there may be another EDR if your vehicle is equipped with a vehicle stability control system, which mine was, that contains even more info about how the vehicle was acting.
Toyota sent someone out to inspect my totalled vehicle. I assumed they would check this info as part of their inspection, but I was wrong. As soon as I called and started asking questions about this, they got the report out that very day, the report which said basically nothing, and got the vehicle released so it could be sold, which it was immediately. Again, when many of the newer Toyotas are equipped with this EDR, why aren't they accessing this information, or are they and they don't want us to know the results. I feel that these EDRs, if they do in fact contain all the info the owner's manual says they do, would tell what really did happen in the case of many of the problems people have posted on this message board, including the vehicle accelerating even though the brake is being depressed, as in my case, and also all the people that have experienced their vehicles moving after they have put them in park and gotten out of them. This is the really frustrating part to me, knowing the information was there and nobody would look at it, so then what, we get blamed for the accident, if we are lucky enough to survive it, and then get higher insurance premiums or worse. I hope someone else that this happens to can get someone to access the information in the EDR.
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Re: Sienna Uncontrolled Acceleration [mking3] by nomoretoyo
Jul 08, 2009 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: mking3 (Jun 11, 2008 12:02 pm)

On April 9 2009 I had just turned onto a side street going approx 5-6 MPH when a car ran a stop sign hitting my 2005 Sienna XLE on the rear door/back wheel area on driver's side pushing my angle slightly to the left. My van immediately went into a full acceleration ramming into a car (going in opposite direction) waiting for a red light,all the time with the engine reving. My van actually pushed this stopped vehicle sideways into the curb (only a matter of feet). At the time of impact I saw a brief puff of either dust or smoke so I was going to let van inch back off the hit vehicle before putting into park. While shifting the van with engine still reving van shot backward across a curb, hit a boulder and then into a palm tree. Only then did the engine subside.. All this took place in a MATTER OF SECONDS. The entire time I was going backward I repeatedly hit the brakes to no avail.
     I filed a report with Toyota (case #0904117041) and with NHTSA (confirmation #10265288). As with other cases, Toyota sent a technician to inspect van,, said no problem found. Sent to me what appeared to be a "form" letter referencing my "pulling into a parking space" which was not the case at all. NHTSA has never corresponded with me since taking the original report.
    There was no way that I would have ever gotten behind the wheel of this Sienna
again. Just thankful no one else was involved. DO NOT BUY TOYOTA!!!!
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Re: Sienna Uncontrolled Acceleration [nomoretoyo] by bertha06
Jul 09, 2009 (12:21 am)
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Replying to: nomoretoyo (Jul 08, 2009 1:21 pm)

I couldn't agree more, DO NOT BUY TOYOTA!!! I cannot believe how they can keep this problem from being acknowledged. Everybody thinks Toyota has such a great reputation, but they have never experienced what we have. I just wonder how many more people this has happened to that don't report it to anybody, or post a message. Of course if they aren't lucky as we were to survive the incident, then nobody ever is aware of what really happened. I have called NHTSA a few times about my report, and they tell me it takes quite a while before they look at the report and decide whether or not to investigate further. So what good does that do, by then the vehicle is gone, if it was totaled like mine was. What are they going to look at. You would think if they keep getting these reports they would realize there really is a big problem here.
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Re: Sienna Uncontrolled Acceleration [nomoretoyo] by ateixeira
Jul 27, 2009 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: nomoretoyo (Jul 08, 2009 1:21 pm)

To be fair - all bets are off after you were hit by a car running a stop sign.
 
Such a violent impact can throw all sorts of things off. Hydraulic brake lines can snap and leak out pressure, for instance. Leaky fluids, short circuits, who knows. Your Sienna was not intact.
 
I don't think your case is the same as the others here, not by a long shot.
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Re: Sienna Uncontrolled Acceleration [ateixeira] by bertha06
Jul 27, 2009 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 27, 2009 10:32 am)

Hi ateixeira
I am really wondering what your interest is in all this. Do you work for Toyota? It seems you are always trying to come up with some other reason why these things are not happening, and are not the fault of the vehicle. What's the deal anyway?
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Re: Sienna Uncontrolled Acceleration [bertha06] by ateixeira
Jul 28, 2009 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: bertha06 (Jul 27, 2009 8:03 pm)

Yeah, right, they helped pay for my Miata and Forester.
 
The poster was blaming Toyota instead of the driver that ran the red light and slammed into his van.
 
I mean, seriously....

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