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Re: Uncontrolled Rapid Acceleration (Lexus) [snevets23]
by shaina1
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Feb 21, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: snevets23 (Feb 20, 2008 10:05 pm)
Is your story similar to what happened to me with my Toyota Sienna? In other words, were you in or out of your car when the uncontrolled acceleration occurred? Maybe you can retell what happened to you. Thank you.
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- #37 of 65
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Re: Uncontrolled Rapid Acceleration (Lexus) [shaina1]
by petl
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Feb 21, 2008 (1:59 am)
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Replying to: shaina1 (Feb 21, 2008 5:45 am)
Based, on your story, you wouldn't be here today if your vehicle encountered uncontrolled acceleration. The vehicle would have crushed you and the garage door. Your apparent problem is different.
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Uncontrolled Rapid Acceleration (Lexus)
by snevets23
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Feb 21, 2008 (7:44 am)
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My current post (#35) above is an update to my original post of #7 found in this discussion group. However, I was a driver IN the vehicle when the incident occurred. In addition, you'll find other posts from me after #7 in reply to the questions of others. Good Luck!
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- #39 of 65
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Re: Has anyone experienced a Toyota Sienna moving after it is placed in park? [shaina1]
by justhuff
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Feb 26, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: shaina1 (Feb 17, 2008 3:04 pm)
YES-just yesterday. I'm still not sure it is was my fault. I wanted to warm my car in the am, I started it and put it into reverse a few feets, so the fumes would not be in my garage, put it back into park and I stepped out of the car and it shifted into reverse knocking me over and plowing into my neighbors fence. I know I did not get out of a moving vehicle. I have it at a collision center-they said it was driving fine-yea I know. I don't think they are able to really tell if there was a defect. When I questioned it, it was brushed off. Were you able to prove anything??? Glad you were not seriously hurt.
Jennifer
PLEASE EMAIL BACK!
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Re: Has anyone experienced a Toyota Sienna moving after it is placed in park? [justhuff]
by shaina1
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Feb 26, 2008 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: justhuff (Feb 26, 2008 8:42 am)
Hi Jennifer,
What year is your Toyota Sienna? Have you had an independent (non Toyota) transmission specialist look at your Sienna? My husband will be taking our Sienna to a specialist this weekend. The day after my accident, on 2/15/08, my husband took our Sienna to our local Toyota dealer where we bought it two years ago; they said there was nothing wrong with the transmission; their service manager told me it was more likely I left the vehicle in neutral and someone pushed the vehicle the twenty feet up the incline of the driveway, hitting me. How rude and obnoxious can you get! I am the paying customer who almost got killed after all! I am positive I did not leave my vehicle in neutral; besides, if it was in neutral, it would have rolled backwards down the driveway as soon as took my foot off the brake to exit the vehicle, and like you, I know I did not get out of a moving vehicle; also, my neighbor is sure the vehicle gear shift was in Park when she put it into Reverse to free me. A Toyota Corporate representative will also be looking at my vehicle this week or next; I pray that this will be an honorable person.
Please, Please PLEASE make a report to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA); their phone number is 1-888-327-4236. If enough reports are made, this vehicle and vehicles with the same transmissions WILL BE RECALLED. Also, make a report to Toyota Corporate Headquarters at 1-800-331-4331. Please e-mail me back. Sincerely, Shaina
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Re: Has anyone experienced a Toyota Sienna moving after it is placed in park? [shaina1]
by justhuff
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Feb 27, 2008 (4:21 am)
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Replying to: shaina1 (Feb 26, 2008 6:48 pm)
Hi again. I also have a 2004. Just curious-what state do you live in? I did not bring it back to the dealer to be looked at. It was not driveable, it was towed directly to the collision shop to be fixed. Honestly, I know they will look at me like I have 3 heads anyway. I don't know, maybe it was pushed into Park and it didn't shift over to the left and slipped out of gear. I don't thik I will ever know. I do promise that I will call both of those numbers when I get home fromwork later and filed reports to have them on record. So far you are the only person I could find. Have you found anyone else?
Jennifer
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- #42 of 65
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Re: Has anyone experienced a Toyota Sienna moving after it is placed in park? [justhuff]
by shaina1
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Feb 27, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: justhuff (Feb 27, 2008 4:21 am)
Hi Jennifer. Just for the record, my vehicle is a 2006 Sienna, not a 2004. Were you hurt when your car hit you? I pray not. Don't doubt yourself. It is very unlikely that your gear shift did not go all the way over to the left when you put it in Park; besides, if you put it in Park and it did not go all the way to the left to be locked in place, that is Toyota's fault, not yours. I have found other people on this Edmund's site who have had experiences with their Toyota when they were shifting into Park; the vehicle accelerated out of control as they were parking in parking lots, etc. I also found someone here in South Florida (that's where I live) who had an experience similar to ours a couple of months ago with his 2005 Toyota Camry. I am hoping more people will respond to my Edmund's message and will also report their accidents to Toyota Corporate and NHTSA (which I thank you for doing, by the way); it will save lives if these vehicles are recalled. Talk to you later. Shai.
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- #43 of 65
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Re: Has anyone experienced a Toyota Sienna moving after it is placed in park? [shaina1]
by phishlover
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May 08, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: shaina1 (Feb 19, 2008 12:09 pm)
All the more reason people really should use their parking brakes, fully engaged. Will probably save a life or transmission or two.
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Re: Sienna Uncontrolled Acceleration [jul333]
by mking3
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Jun 11, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: jul333 (Nov 28, 2006 7:47 pm)
jul333, this same exact scenario happened to me last month.I was driving to work at my school where I work as a teacher. While making a slow U-Turn, with my foot lightly on the brake pedal, my 2004 Toyota Sienna LE van suddenly took off and accelerated uncontrollably like a rocket at maximum velocity. The accelerator pedal was never pressed during this incident. I had just a split second to remove my foot completely off the brake pedal to look down at the floor board to ensure nothing was pinning the pedal downward, nothing was there and the van was still accelerating. I looked up in horror as vehicle was continuing to accelerate at an extremely high rate of speed and continuing to accelerate. I quickly steered the vehicle and dodged a screened chain-link fence to avoid an area where children usually stand waiting for parents. With vehicle still accelerating at full power I quickly passed the fence area, applied the brakes with great force, but they felt unresponsive to the acceleration forces. Now, with vehicle moving at a very high rate of speed and still accelerating, I saw a parked vehicle right in front of me and could no longer control the vehicle and I braced for impact. The van violently smashed into an unattended Ford Expedition vehicle, the engine briefly revved and then finally shut down. Had there not been a parked vehicle there the van would have gone directly into the residential house about 50 feet away. It only took about 3 or 4 seconds for the van to travel the 22 yards from where the accelerator malfunction started to the impact area of the other vehicle. In complete shock, I briefly sat there and wondered how this could have happened. Luckily I was not seriously hurt, my neck and back were sore from the impact, but other than that I was thankful that I was ok. I looked down at the floorboard again to see if anything was pushing the accelerator down. Again there was nothing there, no floor mat or any other foreign object around that area. Had this incident occurred only five minutes before, the street would have been filled with young children, parents and grandparents walking them to school. Reported it to NHSTA and they sent a rep to the vehicle. They collected data from the computer but the chances of find a intermittent fault like this on those computer units is remote. Toyota has a serious class action problem here that needs to be addressed. There is just way too much evidence to dismiss. I encourage all to continue reporting these cases to the NHSTA, Car complaints.com and these blogs so that the NHSTA can eventually file a class action lawsuit against Toyota. Our van was totaled so there are no chances of it killing someone.
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Re: Sienna Uncontrolled Acceleration [mking3]
by ateixeira
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Jun 11, 2008 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: mking3 (Jun 11, 2008 12:02 pm)
Are you saying both the throttle and the brake failed completely?
I ask because they are completely seperate systems. The brakes are hydraulic, while the throttle is by-wire.
For both the fail at the exact same time would be quite unusual.
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