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Is Cadillac's Image Dying and Does Anyone Care?

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#6169 of 6186 Re: . [fintail] by lemko

Dec 02, 2012 (3:45 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Dec 02, 2012 12:36 pm)
Yeesh!!! LEASE at $849 a month?!?!? Shoot, my payments to BUY my DTS were way way less than that! That's a lotta money for a wannabe baller in the 'hood!

#6170 of 6186 Re: . [lemko] by robr2

Dec 02, 2012 (7:03 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2012 3:45 pm)
Yeesh!!! LEASE at $849 a month?!?!? Shoot, my payments to BUY my DTS were way way less than that! That's a lotta money for a wannabe baller in the 'hood!
 
That's 36 months, zero down on a $64K car. Similar priced X5 is leasing for $679 a month. In any case, that's crazy money for a lease.

#6171 of 6186 Re: . [robr2] by berri

Dec 02, 2012 (7:39 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Dec 02, 2012 7:03 pm)
Heck, I think that's a ridiculous payment or lease for any depreciating asset, especially if you can't write part of it off for business expense.

#6172 of 6186 Re: . [lemko] by fintail

Dec 02, 2012 (7:53 pm)

Replying to: lemko (Dec 02, 2012 3:45 pm)
The baller in your hood buys a 2002 'Slade (which doesn't seem really different from a new one in style, quality, or image) and then finances it at 20% with a similar payment. However, if he completes the term, at least he owns it.

#6173 of 6186 exhilarating performance and good fuel economy by steve_ HOST

Dec 06, 2012 (7:02 am)

At first glance it looked like this reviewer was cussing the new ATS; turns out he was giving it four stars (out of four stars).
 
"Light, powerful and efficient, the * * * * 2013 Cadillac ATS sport sedan is a breakthrough for America's premier luxury brand. Lavishly equipped and attractively priced, it raises Cadillac to a new level.
 
The ATS competes with sport sedans like the Audi A4, BMW 3-series, Infiniti G37, Lexus IS 350, Lincoln MKZ and Mercedes-Benz C-class. The new Cadillac's price, fuel economy and performance stack up well against comparably equipped models."
 
Mark Phelan: Cadillac ATS sport sedan strong in looks, performance (Detroit Free Press)

#6174 of 6186 Re: . [fintail] by keystonecarfan

Dec 07, 2012 (11:22 am)

Replying to: fintail (Dec 02, 2012 7:53 pm)
The problem is that he rarely, if ever, "completes the term."
 
Plus, any 2002 vehicle is going to require maintenance and repairs beyond oil changes and tune-ups. Tires alone for the Escalade (or any other full-size SUV) aren't cheap.
 
During Christmas 2006 my wife was surprised that a cousin of our sister-in-law had received an Escalade from her father for Christmas. She asked, "How can he do it?"
 
I then saw the Escalade in question...it was the first-generation model, which meant that it was about 6-7 years old. He didn't really give it to her - he had retained the title and allowed her "use it," but had never signed it over to her.
 
It apparently didn't last long, because after about a year, I never saw the Escalade again, even though we still see her on a regular basis.

#6175 of 6186 Re: . [keystonecarfan] by fintail

Dec 07, 2012 (11:53 am)

Replying to: keystonecarfan (Dec 07, 2012 11:22 am)
She probably ran it out of oil or into a tree or something

#6176 of 6186 Re: . [fintail] by keystonecarfan

Dec 07, 2012 (12:10 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Dec 07, 2012 11:53 am)
More likely, she gave it back when gas prices spiked in 2008. My wife is from a rural area, so people have to do LOTS of driving just to get to the store, school, work, etc. I don't want to think of how much it cost to keep that Escalade filled with gas.

#6177 of 6186 Re: . [keystonecarfan] by fintail

Dec 07, 2012 (12:22 pm)

Replying to: keystonecarfan (Dec 07, 2012 12:10 pm)
And amusingly, that seems to be where so many of those rigs sell, or to people who live really far from work. Then who complains loudest when prices go up?
 
On topic I guess, I wonder what the future is like for the Escalade. Current one is getting long in the tooth.

#6178 of 6186 Re: . [fintail] by robr2

Dec 07, 2012 (12:54 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Dec 07, 2012 12:22 pm)
On topic I guess, I wonder what the future is like for the Escalade. Current one is getting long in the tooth.
 
New one is due for 2014 along with new Tahoe/Yukon/Suburban.

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