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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

6098 messages,  Last post on Aug 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM

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Re: How to do it? [nvbanker] by questiongeek
Jul 31, 2009 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Apr 08, 2009 2:25 pm)

nvbanker this is not a problem if a person can plug the car in when they get to work, then only 4 to 8 hours is needed to charge the car. I am in love with the Tesla! It's gorgeous, quiet, sleek, and just the kind of forward the thinking we need. The range of Teslas between charges is impressive. You don't get just 40 miles on a charge. :\
 
Chevy Volt Schmolt. Somehow I don't think so. It's a hybrid. 40 miles on a charge, then it switches to gasoline, and another big problem. It's got the GM name attached to it.
 
 I'd rather pay $50,000 for the Tesla than $40,000 for the Chevy Volt. Teslas are made my car enthusiasts, not financiers, wall street "whores" and people who think like dinosaurs.
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Re: How to do it? [circlew] by questiongeek
Jul 31, 2009 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Apr 09, 2009 4:14 am)

She's probably on her cell phone too. Although I can't say anything, because I've paid my money at the gas station and driven away without putting any gas in the car. We all have our blonde moments
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Re: Great quote [marsha7] by questiongeek
Aug 01, 2009 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 31, 2009 3:06 pm)

Thanks Marsha7. It was obvious to everyone but General Motors, UAW, and their delusional customers. Their recent bankruptcy was of no surprise to me. It had been stewing for decades.
 
Oh and I've been here, I used to be "mediapusher" on here . I Lost interest in the discussions for a while among others things.
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Oh yeah by cannon3
Aug 01, 2009 (3:56 pm)
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Cadillac is well on its way to becoming world class. GM needs to keep this rolling even through this bankruptcy deal. GM needs to let Cadillac engineers/managers continue to develop cars/crossovers to compete with Acura/Lexus/BMW/Audi ect..
The image of Cadillac has greatly improved in the last 5 years. I work with young professionals and Cadillac is once again in the auto conversations that take place.
Are you listening GM??
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cannon3 by marsha7
Aug 01, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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In theory, what's left of GM and Cadillac should be able to engineer some great cars, simply because they can put their money into better engines and design, rather than spend money trying to figure out how to badge engineer across 4-5 other lines...
 
Of course, great engineering and design will be made by the UAW, so, like it or not, we are truly back at Square One, just in a smaller company...the lousy, worthless, overpaid, unskilled UAW workers are still going to be there, so will anything REALLY change???
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Re: cannon3 [marsha7] by circlew
Aug 02, 2009 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Aug 01, 2009 8:22 pm)

Everything changes. That's why GM went bankrupt. Let's see what they do with Cadillac.
 
Using the same Lambda platform for yet another GM crossover tells you something. Targeting the 3-series tells you something. Stretching the CTS tells you something. The 2010 SRX tells you something.
 
AFAIC, nothing really world class there so far. Let's let the products speak for themselves. GM typically will overprice. Pricing strategy is not their strong point, never has been...except, arguably, for the Corvette.
 
They really should under promise and over deliver but they are not made up of that fabric.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: cannon3 [circlew] by alain_changer
Aug 05, 2009 (9:54 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 02, 2009 7:06 am)

GM going bankrupt was actually a good thing. Liquidation would have been better, as opposed to Chapter 11 or whatever they filed. They were really just too large of a company/corporation. When a corporation gets that large many problems develop, one of those is too many layers of management , which equals ineffective communication between levels of echelon (red tape)
 
Also the way GM did business didn't make financial sense. Having extreme liabilities with health care and pensions, etc.. There was no way they could compete effectively in today's market. It goes way beyond the bad decision they made to cheapen the quality of their cars.
 
All this, yet they can compete in China very well. Perhaps much of the financial success of their brand over in China has much to do with licensing. It's the same way vehicle fuel stations operate in the U.S.A. Underneath the GM name in China, business operations probably look and are very different from their USA cousins.
 
If American origin car makers hadn't had serious European or Asian competition, we in America would still be driving 1960's/ 1970's like Detroit automobiles. Who would really be ok with that?
 
Let's hope they changed their tune in the U.S.A., cause that's the only way they will be able to survive here. Right now the only "Standard of the World" is the CTS, and many would even question that badge of honor based on the transmission problems many on the Edmunds blogs are complaining about. I really am not sure what "standard of the world" means anyway. It's an ambiguous phrase. Was Cadillac ever the standard of the world??
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save caddy!! by caddilist
Aug 06, 2009 (1:48 am)
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YES!! caddy has ups and dpwns since 1902!!! we will prevail as the standard
of the world !! my new caddy proves it as heads turn daily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if the world is watching? iam there too help each person matters and all
cadillac owners WILL UNITE!!!!!!!
CADILLIST RENO NV. U.S.A.
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Re: save caddy!! [caddilist] by circlew
Aug 06, 2009 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: caddilist (Aug 06, 2009 1:48 am)

Caddy might compete with "My Bob's Furniture" on wheels but it's NOT the standard of the world in anything except Bankruptcy. Period.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: save caddy!! [caddilist] by alain_changer
Aug 06, 2009 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: caddilist (Aug 06, 2009 1:48 am)

Your new caddy proves it cause it turns heads daily? What kind of validation is that? Let's see how you do after 50,000 miles, then come back and talk to us.

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