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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

6098 messages,  Last post on Aug 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM

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Re: [lemko] by questiongeek
Jul 31, 2009 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 31, 2009 5:39 am)

lemko the main reason that a person would like a BMW 330 as opposed to a Mercury Marquis is because the BMW handles much better. A Mercury floats on the road and can't turn sharp corners, seats are too soft, the suspension is like a seasick inducing ocean liner., etc..
 
Besides, this is like comparing oranges and apples. Two different markets here. The Cadillac CTS is long overdue. They should have introduced that car 23 years ago
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Great quote by marsha7
Jul 31, 2009 (3:06 pm)
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"I remember in 1988 when my boss told me, "Well the reason I bought a Honda Accord instead of a Cadillac, is because the pieces fit."
  
Where were you when we needed you in the United Auto Workers topic???...that sums up the crap of the UAW in one sentence...
 
Kinda makes me wish I was that smart to describe why I bought 4 Hondas from 1985-1988, keeping the two 88's until 1998 and 2001 respectively...
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Re: How to do it? [questiongeek] by circlew
Jul 31, 2009 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: questiongeek (Jul 31, 2009 11:40 am)

Agreed. GM will never be number one again, I'm afraid.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Great quote [marsha7] by circlew
Jul 31, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 31, 2009 3:06 pm)

The UAW discussion was a riot...seems to have died down since the C11's.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: How to do it? [nvbanker] by questiongeek
Jul 31, 2009 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Apr 08, 2009 2:25 pm)

nvbanker this is not a problem if a person can plug the car in when they get to work, then only 4 to 8 hours is needed to charge the car. I am in love with the Tesla! It's gorgeous, quiet, sleek, and just the kind of forward the thinking we need. The range of Teslas between charges is impressive. You don't get just 40 miles on a charge. :\
 
Chevy Volt Schmolt. Somehow I don't think so. It's a hybrid. 40 miles on a charge, then it switches to gasoline, and another big problem. It's got the GM name attached to it.
 
 I'd rather pay $50,000 for the Tesla than $40,000 for the Chevy Volt. Teslas are made my car enthusiasts, not financiers, wall street "whores" and people who think like dinosaurs.
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Re: How to do it? [circlew] by questiongeek
Jul 31, 2009 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Apr 09, 2009 4:14 am)

She's probably on her cell phone too. Although I can't say anything, because I've paid my money at the gas station and driven away without putting any gas in the car. We all have our blonde moments
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Re: Great quote [marsha7] by questiongeek
Aug 01, 2009 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 31, 2009 3:06 pm)

Thanks Marsha7. It was obvious to everyone but General Motors, UAW, and their delusional customers. Their recent bankruptcy was of no surprise to me. It had been stewing for decades.
 
Oh and I've been here, I used to be "mediapusher" on here . I Lost interest in the discussions for a while among others things.
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Oh yeah by cannon3
Aug 01, 2009 (3:56 pm)
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Cadillac is well on its way to becoming world class. GM needs to keep this rolling even through this bankruptcy deal. GM needs to let Cadillac engineers/managers continue to develop cars/crossovers to compete with Acura/Lexus/BMW/Audi ect..
The image of Cadillac has greatly improved in the last 5 years. I work with young professionals and Cadillac is once again in the auto conversations that take place.
Are you listening GM??
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cannon3 by marsha7
Aug 01, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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In theory, what's left of GM and Cadillac should be able to engineer some great cars, simply because they can put their money into better engines and design, rather than spend money trying to figure out how to badge engineer across 4-5 other lines...
 
Of course, great engineering and design will be made by the UAW, so, like it or not, we are truly back at Square One, just in a smaller company...the lousy, worthless, overpaid, unskilled UAW workers are still going to be there, so will anything REALLY change???
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Re: cannon3 [marsha7] by circlew
Aug 02, 2009 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Aug 01, 2009 8:22 pm)

Everything changes. That's why GM went bankrupt. Let's see what they do with Cadillac.
 
Using the same Lambda platform for yet another GM crossover tells you something. Targeting the 3-series tells you something. Stretching the CTS tells you something. The 2010 SRX tells you something.
 
AFAIC, nothing really world class there so far. Let's let the products speak for themselves. GM typically will overprice. Pricing strategy is not their strong point, never has been...except, arguably, for the Corvette.
 
They really should under promise and over deliver but they are not made up of that fabric.
 
Regards,
OW

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