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#5931 of 6195 Future Non-Standard for Caddy
Jul 31, 2009 (6:44 am)
Business as usual: Clone for the Escalade, SRX that is second-rate, a bigger CTS and a 3-series fighter (probably will look very much like the Catera).
2010 SRX Comes Up Short
It's not exactly the lean, mean competing machine I was expecting from Cadillac, or any of the GM core divisions, and I'm particularly disheartened about the way Caddy seems to be developing vehicles to match up with the competition instead of going its own way. Remember, it was only seven or so years ago that the General's luxury division was essentially dead on its wheels. It took the introduction of the CTS, which looked unlike anything else on the road when it debuted, to start changing people's perceptions of the division. (Okay, that and some serious cash.)
I just hope GM management isn't forgetting what it took to get people to forget the CTS' predecessor.
Caddi-LACK of Planning
#5932 of 6195 Re: [british_rover]
Jul 31, 2009 (6:45 am)
I think you're missing lem's point. The 3 is a sport sedan. Anything lemko may find at fault with it, (small, rough ride, etc) is EXACTLY why it is considered to be the best sport sedan in the world.
Considering lemko's car choices, what a G.M. offers in spite of it's 30 yr old frame is more palateable to his tastes.
Jul 31, 2009 (6:59 am)
I get his point and I don't have any problem with the Grand Marquis it is a nice big floaty boat. It is a good highway car and gets ok mileage for its size. Its not fair to call the Marquis a real car and say the 3 series isn't. They are on two polar opposite ends of the market and Ford could make a much better big floaty highway cruiser without using a platform from 1979. That would cost a lot of money that Ford doesn't have right now which is why the aren't doing it.
#5934 of 6195 Re: [british_rover]
Jul 31, 2009 (7:10 am)
True enough. I think from that perspective, the Panther platform is the poster child for what has been wrong with the American car. Had they built a new platform every say, 10 years for it, then it would've been more than just fleet fodder for the last 10 years.
#5935 of 6195 Re: Future Non-Standard for Caddy [circlew]
Jul 31, 2009 (11:22 am)
That doesn't even look like a Cadillac. Looks like the Volkwagen Touareg or Nissan of some sort
Jul 31, 2009 (11:32 am)
Luckily my dad had the patience to teach me how to drive a stick, although it wasn't easy for me to learn at first. To this day, I still prefer a stick shift, even in traffic. Automatic trannys are so boring, it's pitiful
#5937 of 6195 Re: How to do it? [circlew]
Jul 31, 2009 (11:40 am)
I'm very glad that GM said NO when the Tesla Group asked them for financing. Instead Mercedes took them under their wing. GM would have ruined everything.
I adore the Teslas. It's the kind of innovation and forward thinking we need instead of arrogance and complacency.
Jul 31, 2009 (11:56 am)
lemko the main reason that a person would like a BMW 330 as opposed to a Mercury Marquis is because the BMW handles much better. A Mercury floats on the road and can't turn sharp corners, seats are too soft, the suspension is like a seasick inducing ocean liner., etc..
Besides, this is like comparing oranges and apples. Two different markets here. The Cadillac CTS is long overdue. They should have introduced that car 23 years ago
Jul 31, 2009 (3:06 pm)
"I remember in 1988 when my boss told me, "Well the reason I bought a Honda Accord instead of a Cadillac, is because the pieces fit."
Where were you when we needed you in the United Auto Workers topic???...that sums up the crap of the UAW in one sentence...
Kinda makes me wish I was that smart to describe why I bought 4 Hondas from 1985-1988, keeping the two 88's until 1998 and 2001 respectively...
#5940 of 6195 Re: How to do it? [questiongeek]
Jul 31, 2009 (5:14 pm)
Agreed. GM will never be number one again, I'm afraid.