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#5925 of 6098 Re: maybe? [62vetteefp] by questiongeek Jul 31, 2009 (12:32 am)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 12, 2008 12:46 pm) And why is this approach 30 years late? We had to wait until 2009 to get a nice interior in a Cadillac. Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture?
#5926 of 6098 Re: Quality [kernick] by questiongeek Jul 31, 2009 (12:42 am)
Replying to: kernick (Nov 17, 2008 10:40 am) Not only that, but Caddy might be made by Toyota, Honda or Hyundai very, very soon! ________________________   In a loose interpretation, this has been done before since many Cadillac chassis share with Chevy and Toyota has made some cars for Chevy
#5927 of 6098 Re: [sls002] by questiongeek Jul 31, 2009 (12:46 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Oct 16, 2008 9:13 am) The reason some people have a problem with GM cloning, is because their clones look too similar, or in some cases almost identical and GM does this cloning too much. Actually cosmetic engineering is the proper term for it, or badge engineering as some like to call it
#5928 of 6098 Re: Cadillac as standard of the world. [carfanforever] by questiongeek Jul 31, 2009 (12:53 am)
Replying to: carfanforever (Sep 17, 2008 6:39 pm) In case you didnt know, the STS is supposed to satisfy everyone's past Seville cravings. (Seville Touring Sedan),   The DTS is supposed to satisfy everyone's past Fleetwood and Coupe De Ville cravings (Deville Touring Sedan)   and the CTS is supposed to satisfy everyone's Catera and Cimarron cravings (Catera Touring Sedan or Sport, and Cimarron Touring Sedan or Sport or Special)
#5929 of 6098 Re: [questiongeek] by lemko Jul 31, 2009 (5:39 am)
Replying to: questiongeek (Jul 31, 2009 12:24 am) I'm big, but I'm not fat. I'm 6' 194 lbs. I can fit in a 3 Series, but I don't care for its dimunitive dimensions. For the same price, I can get a real car like a Mercury Grand Marquis LS and still have change left over. Replies to this message: british_rover (Jul 31, 2009 6:24 am) cooterbfd (Jul 31, 2009 6:45 am) british_rover (Jul 31, 2009 6:59 am) and 1 more... questiongeek (Jul 31, 2009 11:56 am)
#5930 of 6098 Re: [lemko] by british_rover Jul 31, 2009 (6:24 am)
Replying to: lemko (Jul 31, 2009 5:39 am) Yes cause real cars have body on frame platforms from 1979.   Seriously man what are you smoking? Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Jul 31, 2009 6:45 am) british_rover (Jul 31, 2009 6:59 am) cooterbfd (Jul 31, 2009 7:10 am)
#5931 of 6098 Future Non-Standard for Caddy by circlew Jul 31, 2009 (6:44 am)
Business as usual: Clone for the Escalade, SRX that is second-rate, a bigger CTS and a 3-series fighter (probably will look very much like the Catera).   2010 SRX Comes Up Short   It's not exactly the lean, mean competing machine I was expecting from Cadillac, or any of the GM core divisions, and I'm particularly disheartened about the way Caddy seems to be developing vehicles to match up with the competition instead of going its own way. Remember, it was only seven or so years ago that the General's luxury division was essentially dead on its wheels. It took the introduction of the CTS, which looked unlike anything else on the road when it debuted, to start changing people's perceptions of the division. (Okay, that and some serious cash.)   I just hope GM management isn't forgetting what it took to get people to forget the CTS' predecessor.   Caddi-LACK of Planning   Regards, OW Replies to this message: questiongeek (Jul 31, 2009 11:22 am)
#5932 of 6098 Re: [british_rover] by cooterbfd Jul 31, 2009 (6:45 am)
Replying to: british_rover (Jul 31, 2009 6:24 am) I think you're missing lem's point. The 3 is a sport sedan. Anything lemko may find at fault with it, (small, rough ride, etc) is EXACTLY why it is considered to be the best sport sedan in the world.   Considering lemko's car choices, what a G.M. offers in spite of it's 30 yr old frame is more palateable to his tastes. Replies to this message: british_rover (Jul 31, 2009 6:59 am) cooterbfd (Jul 31, 2009 7:10 am)
#5933 of 6098 Re: [cooterbfd] by british_rover Jul 31, 2009 (6:59 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 31, 2009 6:45 am) I get his point and I don't have any problem with the Grand Marquis it is a nice big floaty boat. It is a good highway car and gets ok mileage for its size. Its not fair to call the Marquis a real car and say the 3 series isn't. They are on two polar opposite ends of the market and Ford could make a much better big floaty highway cruiser without using a platform from 1979. That would cost a lot of money that Ford doesn't have right now which is why the aren't doing it. Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Jul 31, 2009 7:10 am)
#5934 of 6098 Re: [british_rover] by cooterbfd Jul 31, 2009 (7:10 am)
Replying to: british_rover (Jul 31, 2009 6:59 am) True enough. I think from that perspective, the Panther platform is the poster child for what has been wrong with the American car. Had they built a new platform every say, 10 years for it, then it would've been more than just fleet fodder for the last 10 years.

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