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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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#5920 of 6098 Re: How to do it? [nvbanker] by questiongeek Jul 30, 2009 (10:58 pm)
Replying to: nvbanker (Apr 08, 2009 9:35 am) The XLR is not supposed to sell in huge numbers. It's for the rich, like the Ferrari Testarossa is. If it sold in huge numbers, there would be no sense of exclusiveness to it. The XLR supposedly has a Corvette chassis but is no where near as fun to drive as a Corvette, and at the price point they ask $80,000, there are things about the XLR that scream ---> lacking refinement.   I found it quite surprising that in your post you claim the STS is not big enough. How big does a car have to be? By the way, the STS replaced the beloved Seville. The DTS replaced the Devilles, Fleetwoods, and Eldorados, the CTS replaced the Cimarron and Catera
#5921 of 6098 Re: [nvbanker] by questiongeek Jul 30, 2009 (11:24 pm)
Replying to: nvbanker (Feb 16, 2009 7:07 pm) Dude.. Bravo! I couldn't have said it better myself! In the 1980s Cadillac caused massive defections from their brand and GM cars in general with the junk they foisted upon the public. Then they had the nerve to turn around and complain that people weren't buying their junk, and refused to pay top dollar for it. LOL! It's laughable. An top brand luxury car whose engine destructs at 20,000 miles is inexcusable no matter how someone trys to explain it. Oh and I just love the "brilliant" V-8-6-4 engine. Jeeez what was GM smoking when they developed heap of an engine   I remember in 1988 when my boss told me, "Well the reason I bought a Honda Accord instead of a Cadillac, is because the pieces fit."   Cadillac really didn't become decent again till the late 1990's with the exception of the fiasco called the Catera
#5922 of 6098 Re: [dieselone] by questiongeek Jul 30, 2009 (11:28 pm)
Replying to: dieselone (Feb 16, 2009 5:08 pm) dieselone that's why people that buy the 3 series BMWs buy them, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY DRIVE, not because of snob appeal. Snob appeal is an unfortunate stereotype that BMW developed, because rich yuppies like them, and it's a European car (where all the people with the stuck up accents live)
#5923 of 6098 Re: Quality [cooterbfd] by questiongeek Jul 30, 2009 (11:49 pm)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 11, 2008 6:26 pm) It had very much to do with lack of vision on GMs part. That's a major part of their problem. The Hummer was one of their biggest mistakes to date - Very poor timing They should have been the ones that developed that Pepsi throwback commercial and aired it with the Hummer commercials, cause that's what it was, a setback. The Hummer reminded me of when they introduced the Buick Roadmaster; another monumental flop. Here it was the mid 1980's and they introduce a car that looks like it was from a 1972 time warp.    Most people dont realize that the EV1 had nothing to do with GM wanting to get into the LEV market or Hybrid market. At the time, California had a law that required 2 percent of vehicles sold in the state to be ZEV. GM developed and sold the EV1 to comply and compete with this law. Once the law was scrapped, the EV1s were scrapped and crushed too. They were very expensive to build and market, some became safety hazards, and there was no service infrastructure for them. However despite the EV1s problems, they were a huge success because people were willing to support the idea ,actually liked the car and got used to not having to fill up the car with petro fuel. Almost every EV1 leasee offered to buy the car or continue leasing it. GM didn't care, and didn't want to hear it.    If GM had vision, they would have found a way to stick with the EV1 project to compete with the successful Asian hybrids, but no what did they do? ; they offered FLEXFUEL. "Come on everyone, come get our FlexFuel vehicles, that have very limited fuel availability, costs more than petro fuel, exploits another commodity-->corn, when we could be using those vast lands to grow food to feed people instead of cars and gargantuan SUVs and trucks". Jeeez. give me a break...   Then almost ten years too late, they introduce the Chevy Volt to effectively compete with Asian hybrids. I dont even think it's available yet, but almost. The Chevy Volts expensive price point has already turned many buyers off. And based on GMs past behavior many don't have confidence in the car or trust it.    It's this kind of behavior and marketing that makes many think of GM as backwards, scatterbrained, behind the times, terribly mismanaged, and yeah, having lack of vision ___________________________________ cooterbfd wrote: Selling the Hummer wasn't a lack of vision, not expanding the EV-1 to a Prius like car, or offering a Duramax in the Hummer WAS.
#5924 of 6098 Re: [lemko] by questiongeek Jul 31, 2009 (12:24 am)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 16, 2009 6:09 pm) Well excuse me but some of us are not so fat that we can't comfortably fit into a BMW 3 series. I realize this is the land of the fatties (USA) but not everyone in this country is huge. Many of us are slender like Italians and French Replies to this message: lemko (Jul 31, 2009 5:39 am) british_rover (Jul 31, 2009 6:24 am) cooterbfd (Jul 31, 2009 6:45 am) and 2 more... questiongeek (Jul 31, 2009 11:56 am)
#5925 of 6098 Re: maybe? [62vetteefp] by questiongeek Jul 31, 2009 (12:32 am)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 12, 2008 12:46 pm) And why is this approach 30 years late? We had to wait until 2009 to get a nice interior in a Cadillac. Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture?
#5926 of 6098 Re: Quality [kernick] by questiongeek Jul 31, 2009 (12:42 am)
Replying to: kernick (Nov 17, 2008 10:40 am) Not only that, but Caddy might be made by Toyota, Honda or Hyundai very, very soon! ________________________   In a loose interpretation, this has been done before since many Cadillac chassis share with Chevy and Toyota has made some cars for Chevy
#5927 of 6098 Re: [sls002] by questiongeek Jul 31, 2009 (12:46 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Oct 16, 2008 9:13 am) The reason some people have a problem with GM cloning, is because their clones look too similar, or in some cases almost identical and GM does this cloning too much. Actually cosmetic engineering is the proper term for it, or badge engineering as some like to call it
#5928 of 6098 Re: Cadillac as standard of the world. [carfanforever] by questiongeek Jul 31, 2009 (12:53 am)
Replying to: carfanforever (Sep 17, 2008 6:39 pm) In case you didnt know, the STS is supposed to satisfy everyone's past Seville cravings. (Seville Touring Sedan),   The DTS is supposed to satisfy everyone's past Fleetwood and Coupe De Ville cravings (Deville Touring Sedan)   and the CTS is supposed to satisfy everyone's Catera and Cimarron cravings (Catera Touring Sedan or Sport, and Cimarron Touring Sedan or Sport or Special)
#5929 of 6098 Re: [questiongeek] by lemko Jul 31, 2009 (5:39 am)
Replying to: questiongeek (Jul 31, 2009 12:24 am) I'm big, but I'm not fat. I'm 6' 194 lbs. I can fit in a 3 Series, but I don't care for its dimunitive dimensions. For the same price, I can get a real car like a Mercury Grand Marquis LS and still have change left over. Replies to this message: british_rover (Jul 31, 2009 6:24 am) cooterbfd (Jul 31, 2009 6:45 am) british_rover (Jul 31, 2009 6:59 am) and 1 more... questiongeek (Jul 31, 2009 11:56 am)

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