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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

6098 messages,  Last post on Aug 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: [lemko] by jimbres
Feb 16, 2009 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 16, 2009 6:49 pm)

Ah, it's just as I thought: you can't drive a stick & your domineering girl friend won't let you learn. Too bad.
 
Still, you're partly right about the 3. It's not a luxury car & BMW shouldn't try to market it as one. Those of us who really like BMW aren't thrilled with the latest iteration of the 3-series. It's put on too much weight & it's losing its edge.
 
(And, BTW, the Datsun 510 was a genuinely cool car - cheap, durable & fun to drive.)
 
As for Cadillac, it won't be a serious contender in the luxury segment until it figures out how to attract status-conscious buyers from the Germans. A luxury brand can't stay alive by selling only to bargain hunters like you. It desperately needs people who crave the badge. Cadillac used to own these buyers. It has to get them back.
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Re: [lemko] by circlew
Feb 17, 2009 (4:00 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 16, 2009 6:49 pm)

Try the current 3 before you surmise what banging around is. The hard-core bimmerfiles call it a BUICK! But it won't slam into the wall on a spirited turn and leave all current US cars in the dust.
 
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OW
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Re: [lemko] by circlew
Feb 17, 2009 (4:02 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 16, 2009 6:56 pm)

Yup. That's the only place it will be in style...high school reunions!
 
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OW
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Re: [jimbres] by circlew
Feb 17, 2009 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Feb 16, 2009 7:53 pm)

Heck,Hyundai will get them before Caddy gets them back. That will put them far deeper in the whole...until they loose the UAW and management of old, no chance in Hades!
 
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OW
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Re: [nvbanker] by lemko
Feb 17, 2009 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Feb 16, 2009 7:07 pm)

Oh, I'm familiar with those early '80s Caddies and I avoid them like the plague. They're beautiful cars with awful engines. If I were Cadillac during that period, I'd have stuck with the 425 V-8 and given the eco-weenies and their stupid CAFE rules an upright middle finger until a decent alternative could be developed.
 
I've been doing well since I bought my first new Cadillac in 1989. I followed it up with a 1994 DeVille, a 2002 Seville STS, and my current DTS Performance. If they were so bad, I wouldn't keep buying them.
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Re: [jimbres] by lemko
Feb 17, 2009 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Feb 16, 2009 7:53 pm)

I learned to drive a stick a long time ago on a 1953 Chevrolet truck. I've followed up with driving my then-girlfriend's 1994 Jetta and my friend's BMW Z-4. It might be fun on the open road, but rowing through the gears in city traffic everyday would be tiresome at best.
 
Oh, my girlfriend - she's a very petite 5' 1" and weighs 99 lbs. She's far from "domineering."
 
I truly love the Cadillac marque. If a Caddy cost the same as a Bimmer or Benz, I would still buy it.
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Re: [lemko] by bumpy
Feb 17, 2009 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 17, 2009 6:15 am)

If they were so good, how come you only kept one of them?
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Re: [lemko] by ingvar
Feb 17, 2009 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 16, 2009 6:09 pm)

If a teeny tiny 3-Series is the kind of car you want. I'd spend the same money on a very nice Buick and get my money's worth.
Not everybody needs a huge car. I love 135i. I could drive it around any Buick:-)
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Re: [bumpy] by lemko
Feb 17, 2009 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Feb 17, 2009 7:55 am)

I still have my 1989 Cadillac Brougham and it is still in excellent condition. I intend to keep this car for life! I traded the 1994 DeVille for the 2002 Seville STS and the Seville STS for the DTS Performance.
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Re: [ingvar] by cooterbfd
Feb 17, 2009 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: ingvar (Feb 17, 2009 7:57 am)

".....Not everybody needs a huge car."
 
Well, not everybody needs a midgetmobile. Try to put your wife and 2 teens in a 135. I can put them in my Park Ave, AND put you in your 135i in my trunk and go places.

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