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#5854 of 6098 Re: lemko [marsha7] by 62vetteefp Jan 06, 2009 (5:26 pm)
Replying to: marsha7 (Jan 06, 2009 3:58 pm) What was the torque of both motors in question? HP is not everything. Replies to this message: bumpy (Jan 06, 2009 6:29 pm)
#5855 of 6098 62 by marsha7 Jan 06, 2009 (6:21 pm)
Of course you are right, HP isn't everything...but the torque of the V8 was probably as anemic as the HP...certainly not like some diesel, with 175 HP but 400 ft lb of tork, eh??? Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (Jan 07, 2009 5:20 am)
#5856 of 6098 Re: lemko [62vetteefp] by bumpy Jan 06, 2009 (6:29 pm)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 06, 2009 5:26 pm) True, but neither is torque once it's translated through the loafy gearing that those anemic V8s were saddled with.
#5857 of 6098 HP \ TQ by rayainsw Jan 07, 2009 (4:02 am)
By 1985, the Mustang V8 power was 210 \ 270. And that TQ curve was broad & flat. In '87 = 225 \ 300. The 'feel' was quite different than you'd find with a typical 4 cyl Prelude...   - Ray TQ junkie Replies to this message: circlew (Jan 07, 2009 4:24 am) fintail (Jan 07, 2009 8:47 am) circlew (Jan 07, 2009 11:03 am)
#5858 of 6098 Re: HP \ TQ [rayainsw] by circlew Jan 07, 2009 (4:24 am)
Replying to: rayainsw (Jan 07, 2009 4:02 am) My 1988 Mark VII had the mustang motor that year and did the 1/4 in 8.0 Sec. Funny how that seems slow now. The torque was real nice.   225 hp (168 kW) 300 lbf.ft (407 Nm) SEFI (1988 - 1992 ALL) w/ AOD 4 Speed Automatic   Regards, OW Replies to this message: fintail (Jan 07, 2009 8:47 am) circlew (Jan 07, 2009 11:03 am)
#5859 of 6098 Re: 62 [marsha7] by 62vetteefp Jan 07, 2009 (5:20 am)
Replying to: marsha7 (Jan 06, 2009 6:21 pm) So what were the torques? Was the V8 torque anemic?
#5860 of 6098 Re: HP \ TQ [circlew] by fintail Jan 07, 2009 (8:47 am)
Replying to: circlew (Jan 07, 2009 4:24 am) You mean 0-60 in 8.0, right? Replies to this message: circlew (Jan 07, 2009 11:03 am)
#5861 of 6098 I don't by marsha7 Jan 07, 2009 (10:36 am)
remember the tork figures, but since the engibe was the same 302 I had in my 1983 Grand Marquis (listed at 130 HP, tork unknown) and the acceleration of my GM was like a "Lead Sled", I am quite sure that the "upgraded" 302 was just as anemic...we figured out that the only way we could quickly accelerate was to drive off a cliff, and even then we thought that the friction of the huge "boat" would slow down its acceleration, violating the laws of gravity... Replies to this message: circlew (Jan 07, 2009 11:12 am) bumpy (Jan 07, 2009 11:23 am) circlew (Jan 07, 2009 1:24 pm) and 3 more...
#5862 of 6098 Re: HP \ TQ [fintail] by circlew Jan 07, 2009 (11:03 am)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 07, 2009 8:47 am) Correct! 1/4 was 16.0. Thanks for the catch!   Sounds slow now but felt quick then. Mustang was 14.0 I believe with the same engine.   Regards, OW
#5863 of 6098 Re: I don't [marsha7] by circlew Jan 07, 2009 (11:12 am)
Replying to: marsha7 (Jan 07, 2009 10:36 am) Torque was probably 250 ft/lbs.   1983 5.0 (302 ci) 139 hp 3400 rpm 250 ft/lb 2000 rpm   Regards, OW Replies to this message: bumpy (Jan 07, 2009 11:23 am) circlew (Jan 07, 2009 1:24 pm) bumpy (Jan 07, 2009 3:55 pm) and 2 more...

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