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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

6098 messages,  Last post on Aug 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM

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Re: . [sls002] by 62vetteefp
Dec 12, 2008 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Dec 12, 2008 1:32 pm)

But the original point still holds. The commenter stated the base CTS interior was nicer than BMW or MB. The hand stitched method makes the interior nicer.
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by bacalao
Dec 13, 2008 (6:30 am)
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My answer is yes. I live in europe, know well the cars Americans and Europeans and the CTS is better than the BMW M5, if the enemy of American cars, Jeremy Clarkson recommends this car is all that I own what I notice. Your Senate this crazy
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Re: . [62vetteefp] by sls002
Dec 13, 2008 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 12, 2008 1:36 pm)

My impression of the 2008 or 2009 CTS that I looked at while getting my oil changed recently was that the interior was a vast improvement over the first generation interior. However, I still think that the interior is not what I would expect for a true luxury car interior. For the CTS the interior is good enough, but the one I looked at had a price tag of $45,000 and there was no wood trim on the interior. It was an AWD model though, so perhaps I am expecting a bit too much. Still I think that the CTS with options does become far more expensive than it should be for what you actually get.
 
I can't comment on BMW or other import cars of this ilk, as the nearest dealers are more than 300 miles away, with a round trip taking more than a days drive.
 
I did request that my login to Edmunds be removed and I plan to try to find out how or if this can be done.
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Re: . [sls002] by steve_ HOST
Dec 13, 2008 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Dec 13, 2008 10:17 am)

If you don't want to participate, don't log in.
 
In topical news, Wards keeps the CTS engine on their ten best list:
 
"GM’s high-feature 3.6L V-6 with direct-gasoline injection returns for the second time. Tested in the Cadillac CTS, yet flexible enough to proliferate through the auto maker’s CUVs, the advanced V-6 makes a hardy 304 hp on regular gasoline."
 
Ward’s Announces 2009 10 Best Engines Winners
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Re: . [sls002] by circlew
Dec 13, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Dec 13, 2008 10:17 am)

The CTS for 2008 is finally a car that competes. Typically, this is also the year the company faces bankruptcy...too little too late. I am used to this from GM.
 
Now, after the explosion takes place in 2009, hopefully it's a new year and a new business model that invests more in the products to become first class globally.
 
Too bad you are leaving. Wishing you all the best.
 
Regards,
OW
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steve Host by marsha7
Dec 14, 2008 (10:11 am)
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Does that mean that the Nissan engine, whatever it is, in the Maximas or whatever, that has been in Ward's for 10 years running...ain't in Ward's no mo'?
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Re: steve Host [marsha7] by steve_ HOST
Dec 14, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Dec 14, 2008 10:11 am)

It was a 14 year run but who's counting?
 
Three of the ten engines on the list were Big 3 iron. Some engines, like the one in the Vette ZR1, didn't make the cut because the vehicles they are in cost too much to be considered under Ward's criteria (a $54,000 cap).
 
Wards was leaning towards greener engines this year I guess. They liked the GM engine in the CTS because it has direct-gasoline injection, and cranks out a lot of HP on regular.
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by m4d_cow
Jan 04, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Time to say goodbye to sls. Just one last note for you: we're not writing utter nonsense. Then again, think whatever you want, it's your right to do so.
 
I'm not sure profit is coming back anytime soon, if at all for GM and Chrysler. Many households in my neighbourhood signed a petition letter to our reps basically saying
1) They're disappointed by the government's decision to give GM and Chrysler bailout with barely any strings attached, and
2) That GM and Chrysler have lost them as customers until every cent of the bailout is returned.
  
Not too many people signed, only 229. However in a living community of roughly 280-300 houses it sounds plenty. This is my living area only, I dare bet there are lots of others out there.
Given current situation, I'm not sure even GM can ignore that. Karma, I say...
 
OTOH GM made a solid start with CTS, and the current CTS deserve the title world class, at last. One step, good one but not enough. Just make sure the next step doesn't send GM back to the bottomless pit.
 
This will perhaps be my last entry on this thread. I finally conclude (to myself, indeed) that there are 3 ways to turn Cadillac into a world standard again:
1) If the company goes BK now, and restructure focusing on core brands like Chevy and Cadillac.
2) If GM somehow, miraculously receive enlightment and start restructuring now, assuming they start getting profit soon. Or...
3) No way it's gonna happen with GM, just sell it to someone who can.
 
Happy new year to everyone. Also, goodluck, GM, you're seriously gonna need it.
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2010 SRX by steve_ HOST
Jan 04, 2009 (5:20 pm)
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2009 Detroit Auto Show: 2010 Cadillac SRX
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Re: 2010 SRX [steve_] by circlew
Jan 04, 2009 (5:23 pm)
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General Motors Corp. is counting on the 2010 Cadillac SRX crossover vehicle to lure luxury car buyers with new design and performance features.
 
Cadillac sales fell 24 percent in the first 11 months of 2008, about on par with U.S. light truck and SUV sales overall. The automaker sold nearly 148,000 Cadillacs in January through November, including about 14,800 SRXs. But Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus division sold five times as many RXs.

 
Regards,
OW

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