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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: maybe? [nvbanker] by circlew
Dec 09, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Dec 09, 2008 4:37 pm)

But the Bimmer is the bank vault of the two, IMHO.
 
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Re: maybe? [circlew] by aldw
Dec 11, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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At this point the CTS-V would be no less in chassis stiffness and dynamics, as its performance values indicate, but the interior of the Caddy is much more inviting than the current crop of Bimmers for me. Adding STS amenities could make things even better.
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Re: maybe? [aldw] by 62vetteefp
Dec 11, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: aldw (Dec 11, 2008 12:19 pm)

The base CTS has interior components covered with real hand stitched leather. Only custom marques have that.
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Re: maybe? [62vetteefp] by sls002
Dec 12, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 11, 2008 3:26 pm)

I have looked at the CTS and while the seats are leather, I very much doubt that much of anything else is covered with leather, hand stitched or not.
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Re: maybe? [sls002] by 62vetteefp
Dec 12, 2008 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Dec 12, 2008 11:55 am)

The interior features extensive use of leather wrapped surfaces, created by craftsmen who cut, wrap and sew leather around components individually. The XLR-V marked the initial phase of a new approach to vehicle interiors for Cadillac. In this first incarnation, the existing luxury interior of the XLR roadster has been significantly enhanced for the limited-production V-Series variant.
 
http://media.gm.com/us/cadillac/en/product_services/r_cars/07v%20series%20oview.- - htm
 
I did make a mistake. The V series has leather wrapped components whearas the other marques use molded to plastic PVC coatings. The base CTS uses realistic like leather.
 
http://www.robertellerassoc.com/articles/Interior%20challenges.pdf
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. by sls002
Dec 12, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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this is why I have quit reading edmunds and posting here - anyone and everyone posts complete nonsense
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Re: . [sls002] by 62vetteefp
Dec 12, 2008 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Dec 12, 2008 1:32 pm)

But the original point still holds. The commenter stated the base CTS interior was nicer than BMW or MB. The hand stitched method makes the interior nicer.
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by bacalao
Dec 13, 2008 (6:30 am)
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My answer is yes. I live in europe, know well the cars Americans and Europeans and the CTS is better than the BMW M5, if the enemy of American cars, Jeremy Clarkson recommends this car is all that I own what I notice. Your Senate this crazy
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Re: . [62vetteefp] by sls002
Dec 13, 2008 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 12, 2008 1:36 pm)

My impression of the 2008 or 2009 CTS that I looked at while getting my oil changed recently was that the interior was a vast improvement over the first generation interior. However, I still think that the interior is not what I would expect for a true luxury car interior. For the CTS the interior is good enough, but the one I looked at had a price tag of $45,000 and there was no wood trim on the interior. It was an AWD model though, so perhaps I am expecting a bit too much. Still I think that the CTS with options does become far more expensive than it should be for what you actually get.
 
I can't comment on BMW or other import cars of this ilk, as the nearest dealers are more than 300 miles away, with a round trip taking more than a days drive.
 
I did request that my login to Edmunds be removed and I plan to try to find out how or if this can be done.
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Re: . [sls002] by steve_ HOST
Dec 13, 2008 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Dec 13, 2008 10:17 am)

If you don't want to participate, don't log in.
 
In topical news, Wards keeps the CTS engine on their ten best list:
 
"GM’s high-feature 3.6L V-6 with direct-gasoline injection returns for the second time. Tested in the Cadillac CTS, yet flexible enough to proliferate through the auto maker’s CUVs, the advanced V-6 makes a hardy 304 hp on regular gasoline."
 
Ward’s Announces 2009 10 Best Engines Winners

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