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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: maybe? [rayainsw] by plekto
Dec 04, 2008 (12:07 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Dec 03, 2008 5:32 pm)

Yes, the U.S. *can* make good cars. The CTS-V is basically occupying the same spot the GNX did 20 years ago. I wish GM hadn't taken 20 years to repeat the same philosophy and success, but it can be done if they try.
 
It's a very nice car. Really. Whomps on a 5 series in price and performance.
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Re: maybe? [plekto] by circlew
Dec 04, 2008 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Dec 04, 2008 12:07 am)

Imagine if they did that in EVERY category? Oh, well...
 
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OW
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Re: maybe? [plekto] by nvbanker
Dec 09, 2008 (4:37 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Dec 04, 2008 12:07 am)

In price maybe, performance is debatable - but the plasticky interior is a real turnoff. Of course, so is the I-Drive in the Bimmer.....
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Re: maybe? [nvbanker] by circlew
Dec 09, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Dec 09, 2008 4:37 pm)

But the Bimmer is the bank vault of the two, IMHO.
 
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OW
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Re: maybe? [circlew] by aldw
Dec 11, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 09, 2008 5:52 pm)

At this point the CTS-V would be no less in chassis stiffness and dynamics, as its performance values indicate, but the interior of the Caddy is much more inviting than the current crop of Bimmers for me. Adding STS amenities could make things even better.
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Re: maybe? [aldw] by 62vetteefp
Dec 11, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: aldw (Dec 11, 2008 12:19 pm)

The base CTS has interior components covered with real hand stitched leather. Only custom marques have that.
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Re: maybe? [62vetteefp] by sls002
Dec 12, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 11, 2008 3:26 pm)

I have looked at the CTS and while the seats are leather, I very much doubt that much of anything else is covered with leather, hand stitched or not.
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Re: maybe? [sls002] by 62vetteefp
Dec 12, 2008 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Dec 12, 2008 11:55 am)

The interior features extensive use of leather wrapped surfaces, created by craftsmen who cut, wrap and sew leather around components individually. The XLR-V marked the initial phase of a new approach to vehicle interiors for Cadillac. In this first incarnation, the existing luxury interior of the XLR roadster has been significantly enhanced for the limited-production V-Series variant.
 
http://media.gm.com/us/cadillac/en/product_services/r_cars/07v%20series%20oview.- - htm
 
I did make a mistake. The V series has leather wrapped components whearas the other marques use molded to plastic PVC coatings. The base CTS uses realistic like leather.
 
http://www.robertellerassoc.com/articles/Interior%20challenges.pdf
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. by sls002
Dec 12, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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this is why I have quit reading edmunds and posting here - anyone and everyone posts complete nonsense
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Re: . [sls002] by 62vetteefp
Dec 12, 2008 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Dec 12, 2008 1:32 pm)

But the original point still holds. The commenter stated the base CTS interior was nicer than BMW or MB. The hand stitched method makes the interior nicer.

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