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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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I get to drive a new Cadillac CTS today. Cadillac sure sweated the details as even the geniune stitching on the dashboard lines up with the geniune stitching on the doors, (no more of that cruddy molded-in stuff of the past). Even the key fob and key are nicely detailed - each sporting a raised chrome wreath & crest with colored inlays. The fit and finish in this car is amazing. What once sported hard plastic surfaces is now high-quality soft touch material.
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 12, 2008 7:15 am) I think the Citation had that crud on the seats. Whoever thought that plastic-mold-stitch was a good idea?  Did you manage to find the trunk release on the CTS? |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 11, 2008 6:26 pm) If you have 5 restaurants in your town, and 1 closes, the other 4 are going to do better, because the number of restaurants does not affect the demand to go out and eat. And I think some of the better GM products would get bought up. Some manufacturer would come in and buy the CTS plant and rights to sell it. Similarly other GM products would get built under some other name - the Corvette in Bowling Green would still get built, under some nameplate.
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Replying to: kernick (Nov 12, 2008 10:59 am) In theory, yes as the other 4 restaurants will just call Sysco and order up more food to make. But with such small profit margins, it's possible that if Honda's CV joint supplier is the same as GM's, and they can't afford to retool to make Honda Cv joints to meet their extra demand, or can't retool fast enough, then maybe Honda imports CV joints from a factory that supplies them for their foreign markets, and that is all it takes for that US supplier to go belly up.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 12, 2008 2:36 pm) Per the experts if GM or Ford shut down the whole US industry shuts down for a year. Personally that seems a bit long. I think the companies that build the same vehicles overseas are looking right now on how they would import the needed parts. But it would take time to get all the parts needed. Longest lead time would be parts only used in US. |
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I'm not sure how you'll grow to be a "standard" when you discount a new 08 STS by about $10,000 and when I drive it away the trade in value is already $10,000 less than what I paid for it, even after the huge discount. I'm glad they wanted to give me low KBB less the cost of tires for my trade because I walked away from the deal. I believe they may have a chance as the ultimate used car value though. |
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 12, 2008 7:15 am) Why Lemko! I never thought I'd hear you actually admit that GM interiors of the past we cruddy! Which they were, IMO...... 
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Replying to: nvbanker (Nov 13, 2008 11:48 am) I don't think GM interiors started getting crappy until maybe the late 1960s with the increased use of plastics. Mid-sixties Pontiacs have beautiful interiors and a clearly a step up from Chevrolets. What happened? However, I think they've finally realized the error of their ways. I wasn't entirely happy with the interior of my 1994 DeVille. My 2002 Cadillac Seville STS had a much nicer and better quality interior, the interior of my 2007 Cadillac DTS Performance is really nice, if not quite as nice as a Lexus or Benz, and the interior of the 2009 CTS I recently drove was nicer still. |
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 13, 2008 12:03 pm) Interesting question. I wonder if they figured that cutting back on the parts quality of the drivetrain would kill them on warranty claims but they could cut back on interior quality because fake stitches wouldn't cause a breakdown on the road. False economy if true - plenty of people complain about VW reliability but their interiors sell a lot of cars.
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 13, 2008 12:22 pm)
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