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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Oct 27, 2008 11:52 am)
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Replying to: mediapusher (Oct 28, 2008 9:15 pm) |
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Replying to: mediapusher (Oct 28, 2008 9:06 pm) EV1 was not a viable vehicle at that time. Gas was cheap, the vehicle had insufficient range, it was too expensive, the battery technology was not there and it was NOT in demand except for a few people who had money to burn to show off their greenness. Now if GM would have done a Hybrid then things would be different now. That was there mistake. But then again it is easy to see why they made the decision to go after the hugely profitable large vehicles that the public wanted. Even today a vehicle lightyears ahead of the EV1 will probably not sell in sufficient quantities to warrant it but it will be sold to make GM look greener. The future does look much better since technology is getting there but if gas stays at ~$2 for the next 5 years (and it is if the worldwide economy does not improve) then again it will be a hard sell except for some greenies who have money to spend. If it goes back up to $4 then it may get a small following that will build as the price comes down due to normal efficiencies.
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...what's to keep the Japanese and Korean makes from packing up their plants and saying to the American workers, "Screw you guys! We're going home!" 
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 29, 2008 9:18 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Oct 29, 2008 9:41 am)
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England lost their Automotive sector and they seem to be doing OK.  Don't see Japan or Germany yanking their operations from there?
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| A majority of sales from companies like Honda come from the N. America market. Their livelihoods depend on us buying their product. If they pulled any sort of crap like what you are proposing there would be outrage and the company simply couldn't survive on outside sales. | |
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 29, 2008 9:48 am) I think you're missing that the existence of the Big 3 and its union-workers, does not affect what wages foreign makers pays its workers. So nothing would change in that respect. The wages an employer has to pay is based upon what others are paying in the area. If a machinist is making $20/hr down the street making bearings, then the auto plant has to decide whether to pay slightly more, or how else to keep the worker happy. The wage that worker gets does not depend on whether someone 500 miles away in Detroit gets $25/hr. Also if the current Big 3 fade away, why couldn't they be replaced by another American Big 3? Maybe we could have Gates Motors, Buffett cars, and Apple trucks? Why do you care if the owners and managers of the Big 3 succeed, when they could be replaced?
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 29, 2008 9:48 am) Ford, according to its annual report, paid $70.51 per hour in wages and benefits to workers last year. GM's annual report says its labor costs average $73.26 per hour, while Chrysler's costs average $75.86 -- all well above the average $48 hourly cost incurred by Toyota, Honda and Nissan. I assume a lot cheaper the and Physician-sized salaries of the UAW in it's prime. GM will pay new workers $14/hour.  In line with adjusted salaries needed to keep manufacturing here in the U.S. Regards, OW
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