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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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#5483 of 6098 Re: Bustleback Seville and a question. [carfanforever] by steve_ HOST Sep 19, 2008 (8:16 pm)
Replying to: carfanforever (Sep 19, 2008 8:10 pm) I don't think there's a way to turn off photos in the forums. You can turn off pictures in your browser, but that'll affect every web site you visit. If you are trying to speed up your net connection, that may be an option for you.
#5484 of 6098 Thanking for the answer. by carfanforever Sep 19, 2008 (8:49 pm)
Thank you steve. It would be a nice touch if a picture ignore/turn off option were avaliable here. Replies to this message: steve_ (Sep 19, 2008 9:03 pm)
#5485 of 6098 Re: Thanking for the answer. [carfanforever] by steve_ HOST Sep 19, 2008 (9:03 pm)
Replying to: carfanforever (Sep 19, 2008 8:49 pm) The only thing else I can suggest is to click on Outine mode at the top right of the discussions. That'll limit what you see until you click through to the posts that interest you. But may not see enough in that mode to figure out what you want to read.
#5486 of 6098 by m4d_cow Sep 19, 2008 (10:03 pm)
"Oh, and don't drive or park your H1,H2,slade... in cambridge, all the prius in the block will join force and use their Ni-Mh power to fry your truck. "   Autobots, decepticons spotted, confirmed foes: H1, H2, Escalade. Fire the Ni-Mh cannon, DESTROY THE ENEMY!!!!! What about v-12 exotics or v-8 powered sedans? Which side are they on? By contrast, H1s are pretty much wallflowers here. No, not every 1 out of 10 homes have one, but they are so common nobody pays attention to them anymore. The same can be said of e46 M3s and Mustang GT/GT500.
#5487 of 6098 by m4d_cow Sep 19, 2008 (10:06 pm)
"I don't think Cadillac should try to build a car that is better than some BMW, but should instead build cars that together form a line up of vehicles that customers will want to buy" This I agree. Nissan is a good example. Remember Nissan going all Toyota wannabe in the 90s? Sales slipped and they almost went bankrupt. Then they suddenly came back with the 2002 Altima, offering, to some degree, sportiness and agressive styling it's competitors lacking in. Add 350Z and sales suddenly jumped back up. Whats cadillac's theme? Have they really got one? Of course, as most competitors already have their own vision, its a tough job for cadillac. BMW offers sporty luxo car, MB offer luxury1st-sport 2nd car, Audi offers awd convenience and amazing interior quality. Add Lexus, which focus on luxury 1st, sports a distant 2nd, or Infiniti which offers value priced sporty luxo car as definite alternative to BMWs. Acura stick with big value and loaded standard features (or used to....).   The American BMW concept is definitely falling....   Cadillac, from what I see, seems to try too hard to build an American BMW-MB 2-in-1 car, offering BMWs handling sharpness and MB's softer ride at THEIR PRICE. Bad idea imo, I prefer to start as value player 1st, like Lexus did years ago, and then, when the brand finally re-established itself as a luxury player, go ahead and choose the more ambitious path, the customers will be ready to accept. I dont understand why Cadillac is rushing.....   Of course, Cadillac isnt the only one. BMW really messed their own vision of "sheer driving pleasure" with the 6 and 7 series. More lexus-MB than BMW imo. Replies to this message: sls002 (Sep 20, 2008 12:58 pm)
#5488 of 6098 Re: Bustleback Seville and a question. [carfanforever] by sls002 Sep 20, 2008 (12:53 pm)
Replying to: carfanforever (Sep 19, 2008 8:10 pm) The first generation Seville was in production for 4 year and they built 200,000. The bustleback was in production for 6 years and they built less than 200,000, but only just less. The bustleback is more distinctive, and perhaps you just noticed it more. The smallest Seville was the 86 through 91 models and production for the six years totaled less than 150,000.
#5489 of 6098 Re: [m4d_cow] by sls002 Sep 20, 2008 (12:58 pm)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Sep 19, 2008 10:06 pm) The CTS is the only Cadillac that is doing well this year. The STS and SRX have fallen off from last year, but are doing better than the DTS or Escalades.
#5490 of 6098 Thanking steve again. by carfanforever Sep 20, 2008 (1:24 pm)
Thank you for the tip, but you were right, that is not very usefull. Sigh. Replies to this message: steve_ (Sep 20, 2008 2:37 pm)
#5491 of 6098 Bustleback vs small Seville. by carfanforever Sep 20, 2008 (1:36 pm)
It was not the distinctive styling of the bustleback. The small Seville angered me because I did not like it. So if it was common, I would remember being disgusted by it often. That car really was a very rare sight. Replies to this message: sls002 (Sep 21, 2008 1:33 pm) andre1969 (Sep 21, 2008 3:53 pm)
#5492 of 6098 Re: Thanking steve again. [carfanforever] by steve_ HOST Sep 20, 2008 (2:37 pm)
Replying to: carfanforever (Sep 20, 2008 1:24 pm) Just curious, but what is it about pics in the discussion that bugs you?   It could be worse - we could have flaming animated emotorcons.

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