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#5480 of 6098 Re: excitement over the CTS [circlew] by cooterbfd Sep 19, 2008 (1:44 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Sep 19, 2008 10:40 am) Again, you pick out just ONE aspect. The paragraphs before state:   "But the internals are another story. The CTS sports a 229kW and 374Nm, 3,6-litre, direct injection, all-aluminium V6. This is class-leading power in its segment, beating the Mercedes E350, BMW 330i and Audi 3,2 A6 by some margin. The CTS dusts a 0-to-100kph sprint in just over six seconds, with a top speed of 240kph. So it's got the go to match the show and the six-speed "hydramatic", automatic transmission is perfectly competent.   Power -- in the old-school American way -- is sent to the rear wheels, but without some antiquated rear suspension. The CTS is endowedwith multilink rear suspension, a limited slip differential, an electronic stability management system and electronic brake-force distribution. As the Yanks might say: "This baby is fully loaded."   The result was a savage disposition on the highway during the launch drive, with a towering acceleration between 80kph and 120kph. The CTS reaches down for its horses with an infectious ferocity, making it difficult not to keep yourself pinned into the seat at the behest of your right foot. The ride is supple and comfortable thanks to its long wheel base and rear suspension that keeps the chassis nicely neutral."   Can't you just accept that it is a sport sedan DONE THE CADILLAC WAY??? It may not handle "razor sharp", but you won't need $5000 in dental work or stitches to close that gash in your bitten tongue every time you ride over a tar crease in the road (OK, a LITTLE overexaggeration ) Replies to this message: circlew (Sep 19, 2008 6:51 pm)
#5481 of 6098 Re: excitement over the CTS [cooterbfd] by circlew Sep 19, 2008 (6:51 pm)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Sep 19, 2008 1:44 pm) Relax! I accept the Living Room effects and the lull-yourself-to-sleep highway experience.   I guess it depend on your definition of driving.     Regards, OW
#5482 of 6098 Bustleback Seville and a question. by carfanforever Sep 19, 2008 (8:10 pm)
I seem to remember seeing many more bustleback Sevilles than the small Sevilles, and I have been a car watcher since before age 10. It used to be the biggest thrill for me to reconize new car models on the street, after seeing them advertised on tv and in magazines.   My question Is there any way I can make it so I do not see photos that other members put in their posts? Replies to this message: steve_ (Sep 19, 2008 8:16 pm) sls002 (Sep 20, 2008 12:53 pm)
#5483 of 6098 Re: Bustleback Seville and a question. [carfanforever] by steve_ HOST Sep 19, 2008 (8:16 pm)
Replying to: carfanforever (Sep 19, 2008 8:10 pm) I don't think there's a way to turn off photos in the forums. You can turn off pictures in your browser, but that'll affect every web site you visit. If you are trying to speed up your net connection, that may be an option for you.
#5484 of 6098 Thanking for the answer. by carfanforever Sep 19, 2008 (8:49 pm)
Thank you steve. It would be a nice touch if a picture ignore/turn off option were avaliable here. Replies to this message: steve_ (Sep 19, 2008 9:03 pm)
#5485 of 6098 Re: Thanking for the answer. [carfanforever] by steve_ HOST Sep 19, 2008 (9:03 pm)
Replying to: carfanforever (Sep 19, 2008 8:49 pm) The only thing else I can suggest is to click on Outine mode at the top right of the discussions. That'll limit what you see until you click through to the posts that interest you. But may not see enough in that mode to figure out what you want to read.
#5486 of 6098 by m4d_cow Sep 19, 2008 (10:03 pm)
"Oh, and don't drive or park your H1,H2,slade... in cambridge, all the prius in the block will join force and use their Ni-Mh power to fry your truck. "   Autobots, decepticons spotted, confirmed foes: H1, H2, Escalade. Fire the Ni-Mh cannon, DESTROY THE ENEMY!!!!! What about v-12 exotics or v-8 powered sedans? Which side are they on? By contrast, H1s are pretty much wallflowers here. No, not every 1 out of 10 homes have one, but they are so common nobody pays attention to them anymore. The same can be said of e46 M3s and Mustang GT/GT500.
#5487 of 6098 by m4d_cow Sep 19, 2008 (10:06 pm)
"I don't think Cadillac should try to build a car that is better than some BMW, but should instead build cars that together form a line up of vehicles that customers will want to buy" This I agree. Nissan is a good example. Remember Nissan going all Toyota wannabe in the 90s? Sales slipped and they almost went bankrupt. Then they suddenly came back with the 2002 Altima, offering, to some degree, sportiness and agressive styling it's competitors lacking in. Add 350Z and sales suddenly jumped back up. Whats cadillac's theme? Have they really got one? Of course, as most competitors already have their own vision, its a tough job for cadillac. BMW offers sporty luxo car, MB offer luxury1st-sport 2nd car, Audi offers awd convenience and amazing interior quality. Add Lexus, which focus on luxury 1st, sports a distant 2nd, or Infiniti which offers value priced sporty luxo car as definite alternative to BMWs. Acura stick with big value and loaded standard features (or used to....).   The American BMW concept is definitely falling....   Cadillac, from what I see, seems to try too hard to build an American BMW-MB 2-in-1 car, offering BMWs handling sharpness and MB's softer ride at THEIR PRICE. Bad idea imo, I prefer to start as value player 1st, like Lexus did years ago, and then, when the brand finally re-established itself as a luxury player, go ahead and choose the more ambitious path, the customers will be ready to accept. I dont understand why Cadillac is rushing.....   Of course, Cadillac isnt the only one. BMW really messed their own vision of "sheer driving pleasure" with the 6 and 7 series. More lexus-MB than BMW imo. Replies to this message: sls002 (Sep 20, 2008 12:58 pm)
#5488 of 6098 Re: Bustleback Seville and a question. [carfanforever] by sls002 Sep 20, 2008 (12:53 pm)
Replying to: carfanforever (Sep 19, 2008 8:10 pm) The first generation Seville was in production for 4 year and they built 200,000. The bustleback was in production for 6 years and they built less than 200,000, but only just less. The bustleback is more distinctive, and perhaps you just noticed it more. The smallest Seville was the 86 through 91 models and production for the six years totaled less than 150,000.
#5489 of 6098 Re: [m4d_cow] by sls002 Sep 20, 2008 (12:58 pm)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Sep 19, 2008 10:06 pm) The CTS is the only Cadillac that is doing well this year. The STS and SRX have fallen off from last year, but are doing better than the DTS or Escalades.

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