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#5471 of 6098 Re: Replying to bumpy. [bumpy] by sls002 Sep 19, 2008 (6:44 am)
Replying to: bumpy (Sep 18, 2008 7:54 pm) The CTS is on a dead end platform. What I mean is that the CTS will be the last production model on the sigma platform. The so called global RWD platform (Pontiac G8, Camaro) will replace the sigma.
#5472 of 6098 excitement over the CTS by steve_ HOST Sep 19, 2008 (9:53 am)
"It's normal to draw some attention at a car launch, but the whooping, hollering and waving the CTS received from passers-by was something quite unprecedented. Barrel-chested and with a deep furrow in its brow, it's a menacing, extravagant beast that seems to elicit an instant response from people."   Showing off a real swagger (Mail & Guardian) Replies to this message: circlew (Sep 19, 2008 10:40 am) cooterbfd (Sep 19, 2008 1:44 pm) circlew (Sep 19, 2008 6:51 pm)
#5473 of 6098 Re: Replying to bumpy. [lemko] by bumpy Sep 19, 2008 (10:19 am)
Replying to: lemko (Sep 19, 2008 4:08 am) Speaking of the 2nd-gen bigbody Deville, I saw one today tagged 'DHS'. Any idea what the H was supposed to stand for? Hearse?   I also saw a CTS with a full brown carriage roof, a V-type grille, and some sort of flower-petal wheels. Replies to this message: lemko (Sep 19, 2008 10:42 am) circlew (Sep 19, 2008 12:45 pm) sls002 (Sep 19, 2008 10:45 am)
#5474 of 6098 Re: excitement over the CTS [steve_] by circlew Sep 19, 2008 (10:40 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Sep 19, 2008 9:53 am) "When the going gets twisty, however -- as tested over the Outeniqua pass -- the CTS does not deliver on the implicit sportiness in the spec sheet. Although it has good grip, it does not inspire confidence or handle in a razor-sharp manner. It favours wider, longer sweeps in which it can use power reserves, as opposed to the delicate switchbacks that favour more precise machines."   Regards, OW Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Sep 19, 2008 1:44 pm) circlew (Sep 19, 2008 6:51 pm)
#5475 of 6098 Re: Replying to bumpy. [bumpy] by lemko Sep 19, 2008 (10:42 am)
Replying to: bumpy (Sep 19, 2008 10:19 am) That had to be an older car. The big Caddy had three levels around 2000-03 or so: DeVille, DHS, and DTS. Don't know what the "H" stood for."   As for tacky add-on CRAP like carriage roofs and stupid wheels, blame that on the owner and the dealer that provides that garbage, not Cadillac. I keep my cars free of that stuff. Replies to this message: circlew (Sep 19, 2008 12:45 pm)
#5476 of 6098 Re: Replying to bumpy. [bumpy] by sls002 Sep 19, 2008 (10:45 am)
Replying to: bumpy (Sep 19, 2008 10:19 am) DHS was the high luxury sedan. This model was sort of a replacement for the old Fleetwood models after they discontinued the RWD Fleetwood. I think that this started around model year 2000.
#5477 of 6098 I seem to recall... by lemko Sep 19, 2008 (10:51 am)
...an extended-length Cadillac DeVille from about 1998-99. It was like only a four inch extension and it had wheel skirts. I think it was called the DeVille Limited or something like that.
#5478 of 6098 For awhile by marsha7 Sep 19, 2008 (12:30 pm)
in the early 2000s, the DTS was the performance version with floor shifter, the DeVille was the "stripped" down version, and the DHS was ultra luxury, column shifter, luxo-boat...IIRC, the DHS had the lower HP version of the Northstar, but better tork, and had better mpg than the DTS...but, if anyone knows, it would be lemko, who, I am almost sure, is quite a fan of the DTS...
#5479 of 6098 Re: Replying to bumpy. [lemko] by circlew Sep 19, 2008 (12:45 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Sep 19, 2008 10:42 am) DHS, which stands for DeVille High-luxury Sedan, is a premium version designed to appeal to those among younger buyers who lean more toward luxury and less toward sport. Distinguishing features include chrome wheels, more power accessories, a hedge-your-bets switch to choose analog instruments with big, round gauges and pointers or digital displays of the speedometer and minor gauges or a combination that displays both dials and digital readouts. The hood emblem lies flat instead of sticking up. Front seats are buckets, not bench. The gearshift remains on the column.   Regards, OW
#5480 of 6098 Re: excitement over the CTS [circlew] by cooterbfd Sep 19, 2008 (1:44 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Sep 19, 2008 10:40 am) Again, you pick out just ONE aspect. The paragraphs before state:   "But the internals are another story. The CTS sports a 229kW and 374Nm, 3,6-litre, direct injection, all-aluminium V6. This is class-leading power in its segment, beating the Mercedes E350, BMW 330i and Audi 3,2 A6 by some margin. The CTS dusts a 0-to-100kph sprint in just over six seconds, with a top speed of 240kph. So it's got the go to match the show and the six-speed "hydramatic", automatic transmission is perfectly competent.   Power -- in the old-school American way -- is sent to the rear wheels, but without some antiquated rear suspension. The CTS is endowedwith multilink rear suspension, a limited slip differential, an electronic stability management system and electronic brake-force distribution. As the Yanks might say: "This baby is fully loaded."   The result was a savage disposition on the highway during the launch drive, with a towering acceleration between 80kph and 120kph. The CTS reaches down for its horses with an infectious ferocity, making it difficult not to keep yourself pinned into the seat at the behest of your right foot. The ride is supple and comfortable thanks to its long wheel base and rear suspension that keeps the chassis nicely neutral."   Can't you just accept that it is a sport sedan DONE THE CADILLAC WAY??? It may not handle "razor sharp", but you won't need $5000 in dental work or stitches to close that gash in your bitten tongue every time you ride over a tar crease in the road (OK, a LITTLE overexaggeration ) Replies to this message: circlew (Sep 19, 2008 6:51 pm)

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