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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: Replying to bumpy. [carfanforever] by sls002
Sep 19, 2008 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: carfanforever (Sep 18, 2008 10:14 pm)

The bustleback Seville did not sell that well, about 33,000 per year. The first generation Seville sold at nearly 50,000 per year. However the small Seville sold at a 20,000 per year rate at first, but finished up at 25,000+.
 
The Deville used to be the best seller of the Cadillac line. Now the CTS is the best seller, perhaps because of price. The DTS (or Deville) is second best. The Escalade is next 35,000. The STS and SRX sell at the same rate, about 22,000.
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Re: Replying to bumpy. [bumpy] by sls002
Sep 19, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Sep 18, 2008 7:54 pm)

The CTS is on a dead end platform. What I mean is that the CTS will be the last production model on the sigma platform. The so called global RWD platform (Pontiac G8, Camaro) will replace the sigma.
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excitement over the CTS by steve_ HOST
Sep 19, 2008 (9:53 am)
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"It's normal to draw some attention at a car launch, but the whooping, hollering and waving the CTS received from passers-by was something quite unprecedented. Barrel-chested and with a deep furrow in its brow, it's a menacing, extravagant beast that seems to elicit an instant response from people."
 
Showing off a real swagger (Mail & Guardian)
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Re: Replying to bumpy. [lemko] by bumpy
Sep 19, 2008 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Sep 19, 2008 4:08 am)

Speaking of the 2nd-gen bigbody Deville, I saw one today tagged 'DHS'. Any idea what the H was supposed to stand for? Hearse?
 
I also saw a CTS with a full brown carriage roof, a V-type grille, and some sort of flower-petal wheels.
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Re: excitement over the CTS [steve_] by circlew
Sep 19, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 19, 2008 9:53 am)

"When the going gets twisty, however -- as tested over the Outeniqua pass -- the CTS does not deliver on the implicit sportiness in the spec sheet. Although it has good grip, it does not inspire confidence or handle in a razor-sharp manner. It favours wider, longer sweeps in which it can use power reserves, as opposed to the delicate switchbacks that favour more precise machines."
 
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Re: Replying to bumpy. [bumpy] by lemko
Sep 19, 2008 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Sep 19, 2008 10:19 am)

That had to be an older car. The big Caddy had three levels around 2000-03 or so: DeVille, DHS, and DTS. Don't know what the "H" stood for."
 
As for tacky add-on CRAP like carriage roofs and stupid wheels, blame that on the owner and the dealer that provides that garbage, not Cadillac. I keep my cars free of that stuff.
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Re: Replying to bumpy. [bumpy] by sls002
Sep 19, 2008 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Sep 19, 2008 10:19 am)

DHS was the high luxury sedan. This model was sort of a replacement for the old Fleetwood models after they discontinued the RWD Fleetwood. I think that this started around model year 2000.
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I seem to recall... by lemko
Sep 19, 2008 (10:51 am)
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...an extended-length Cadillac DeVille from about 1998-99. It was like only a four inch extension and it had wheel skirts. I think it was called the DeVille Limited or something like that.
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For awhile by marsha7
Sep 19, 2008 (12:30 pm)
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in the early 2000s, the DTS was the performance version with floor shifter, the DeVille was the "stripped" down version, and the DHS was ultra luxury, column shifter, luxo-boat...IIRC, the DHS had the lower HP version of the Northstar, but better tork, and had better mpg than the DTS...but, if anyone knows, it would be lemko, who, I am almost sure, is quite a fan of the DTS...
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Re: Replying to bumpy. [lemko] by circlew
Sep 19, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Sep 19, 2008 10:42 am)

DHS, which stands for DeVille High-luxury Sedan, is a premium version designed to appeal to those among younger buyers who lean more toward luxury and less toward sport. Distinguishing features include chrome wheels, more power accessories, a hedge-your-bets switch to choose analog instruments with big, round gauges and pointers or digital displays of the speedometer and minor gauges or a combination that displays both dials and digital readouts. The hood emblem lies flat instead of sticking up. Front seats are buckets, not bench. The gearshift remains on the column.
 
Regards,
OW

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