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#5437 of 6098 Re: [sls002] by circlew Sep 11, 2008 (2:32 pm)
Replying to: sls002 (Sep 11, 2008 12:54 pm) The 1-series was not available in 2006! I would have done just that!   Regards, OW Replies to this message: sls002 (Sep 11, 2008 4:16 pm) circlew (Sep 12, 2008 3:16 am) sls002 (Sep 12, 2008 6:35 am) and 1 more...
#5438 of 6098 Re: [circlew] by sls002 Sep 11, 2008 (4:16 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Sep 11, 2008 2:32 pm) Well then, I must inform you that there are vehicles that can outperform the 1 series. For example the Mustang Shelby GT500 Replies to this message: circlew (Sep 12, 2008 3:16 am) sls002 (Sep 12, 2008 6:35 am) circlew (Sep 12, 2008 7:18 am)
#5439 of 6098 Re: [sls002] by circlew Sep 12, 2008 (3:16 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Sep 11, 2008 4:16 pm) Excellent choice! How about the Z-06 Corvette? THose 2 cars are the only ones worth their weight.   But I need a sedan...any ideas? For example, nothing beats the 3-series for a family sedan manufactured by the US Auto manufactures. Perhaps after they get their low cost loans for car development, that might change but for now, I'm not buying.   Shares of General Motors Corp. rose 11.6% Thursday after a Wall Street analyst said a $25-billion government loan package for the auto industry would "notably reduce bankruptcy risk" for the automaker.   $6B Bailout   Regards, OW Replies to this message: sls002 (Sep 12, 2008 6:35 am) circlew (Sep 12, 2008 7:18 am)
#5440 of 6098 Re: [62vetteefp] by lemko Sep 12, 2008 (5:29 am)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 11, 2008 8:19 am) My last car was a 2002 Cadillac Seville STS finished in White Diamond which is one of the specialty paints. The other at that time was Crimson Pearl. Replies to this message: nortsr1 (Sep 12, 2008 6:29 am)
#5441 of 6098 Re: [lemko] by nortsr1 Sep 12, 2008 (6:29 am)
Replying to: lemko (Sep 12, 2008 5:29 am) My wife had one of the first caddy SRX's (V8) (I forget the year...I am OLD) and it also was "white diamond" and if memory serves me correctly, it was a $900.00 extra. Her newer (V6) one is a metallic dark cherry color, but her next one will again be "white diamond". She loves that color. She also loves her SRX.
#5442 of 6098 Re: [circlew] by sls002 Sep 12, 2008 (6:35 am)
Replying to: circlew (Sep 12, 2008 3:16 am) If you need a sedan, why did you say that you would have bought the 1-series when it is only available as a coupe? The 3-series is a small car, but is a 4 door. If space is an important consideration then the larger CTS is a useful alternative. If room is less important than having something closer to a sports car, then the 3-series with the sport package is a good choice. But your credibility is now in question as you seem not to know what you are talking about. Replies to this message: circlew (Sep 12, 2008 7:18 am)
#5443 of 6098 Re: [sls002] by circlew Sep 12, 2008 (7:18 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Sep 12, 2008 6:35 am) That is correct, the one series is a coupe.   The 3-series is the sedan in comparo with CTS. I might have sacrificed the 2 doors after driving this in 2008 but since it wasn't available back in 2005 when I got the 330xi, the point is really moot. In 2005, CTS wasn't even on my radar screen. So far, the style today is better as well as the performance so at least it would be an alternative but for the price. Also, the design is not that appealing to me but much improved. The future coupe would make me change my mind!!   Today, I am giving the 1-series a real lot of consideration. There is nothing comparable at Caddy today but I think they are working on a smaller Caddy. Hope they don't copy the Catera and use the 1-series as a bench mark.   Regards, OW
#5444 of 6098 by m4d_cow Sep 12, 2008 (9:10 pm)
The GT500 outperforms the 1?   On straight line track, yeah I agree. But the car is too heavy for sharp handling on curvy roads. There are quite a few of those here, mostly owned by college kids. I drove one, albeit only for about 10 mins or so, but it was enough to feel the car's mass overwhelming the steering.   CTS' steering is good, but next to the G and 3 they fell apart from my personal opinion. This not to say I hate the car, in fact the contrary applies if I'm looking for ride comfort, one thing CTS excels in that neither the G or the 3 can match.   Like I said, preference. Replies to this message: sls002 (Sep 13, 2008 7:25 am)
#5445 of 6098 by m4d_cow Sep 12, 2008 (10:50 pm)
"Cadillac charge extra only on tint and tricoat paints"   Uh, sure, but the Japanese dont need double or tricoat paints to look good. Park the 3, G, and CTS in black next to each other, and you'll notice that the CTS' color fade where others shine. Why black? it's the most neutral base color. I saw this months ago at the local Cadi dealer where an 08 CTS was parked next to a used 07 G35, both black. How do you explain that? I was baffled myself.   "R/T comparison rated CTS only slightly behind the G and 5series, which cost 12k more" Uh, one question, why the 5? GM wants CTS to compete with the 3. If the 5 is the rival, then the STS and M must step up for the challenge. Is it because of size? If so you're basically saying that the STS should be compared to the likes of S-class and 750. Oh and along with Chrysler 300c too. GM doesnt make CTS larger to fight the 5er, GM makes it larger because they want the size to be an asset in the competition!!! Also please remember that compared to the current value leaders in the 50k class, the Infiniti M and Audi A6, the CTS holds even weaker cards.   Question: pricewise, do you really think the CTS is a value player in its class??? At $40-41k for a CTS versus $36-37k for a comparably equipped G35, I dont think so.   I've said this before, the only major problem I have with the CTS is price. GM is getting way overconfident in this matter. Overpricing is not the proper way to crawl back to the top. Were it priced close to the G's 36k it'll be a great value, and all its shortcomings can be overlooked. Replies to this message: sls002 (Sep 13, 2008 7:40 am)
#5446 of 6098 Re: [m4d_cow] by sls002 Sep 13, 2008 (7:25 am)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Sep 12, 2008 9:10 pm) Performance statistics are going to be something measurable. If you want to talk about real highways, then the results are subjective. My comments were directed to circlew in particular. However, there are a number of cars that do outperform the turbocharged 3-series, not just the GT500.   Perhaps it is useful to point out that the turbocharged 6 in the 5-series matches the performance of the 5-series V8. The turbo 6 has 300 lb-ft of torque from 1400 RPMs to 5000 RPMs. This gives any car with this engine a lot of torque, and performance will be quite good and hard to beat with a normal engine of any size.

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