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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
6098 messages, Last post on Aug 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM
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Replying to: lemko (Sep 09, 2008 10:32 am) For 2009, the RWD M35 & M45 will get a 7-speed transmission. The AWD models will continue to ship with the older 5-speed, although I imagine that this will change as production of the 7-speed ramps up. If I ran BMW's North American operation, I would lose sleep over Infiniti. The G & M cars just keep getting better. Unless you're a stick-shift bigot, like me, I'm not sure that there's a good reason to choose a BMW over its Infiniti counterpart. (This is coming from a longtime 3-series owner.)
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Replying to: jimbres (Sep 09, 2008 2:06 pm) Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 09, 2008 3:46 am) 
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Replying to: aldw (Sep 09, 2008 2:45 pm) Caddy has some nice cars...just not the best. Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 09, 2008 3:19 pm) The CTS is as big as the 5 series, yet is $12K cheaper, while your Bimmer is 1/2 inch SHORTER than a Corolla. Your car SHOULD handle better; it's SMALLER!!! A 5 series SHOULD be better quality than the CTS, as you could buy a Fit or Aveo with the price difference!! If the CTS is being touted as close, but not quite, when comparing to the 3's sportiness or a 5's luxuriousness, then it is BMW who should be asking how they get that close w/ a car that "cheap" and big. Also, did it ever occur to you that the CTS' true mission is to be 3 series "like", yet still hold true to Cadillac (and American) tradition??? Remember, the 3 is "mid-sized" by Euro standards, while the CTS is "small" by American standards. |
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 09, 2008 2:17 pm) I think that you missed my point. The Infiniti (not "Infinity") M is more than an alternative to the Caddy. It's a value-priced alternative to the 5-series. From a marketing perspective, it's more of a threat to BMW than it is to Cadillac. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Sep 09, 2008 4:59 pm) The new V is an example of what can be done if the car does not break over time. We will see. The intenet of all this is to make Cadillac the best. It's not there yet and hopefully will make it. When you make the best, they sell themselves. |
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 10, 2008 4:07 am) The data shows otherwise. http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2008063 While I cannot get individual model data Cadillac is above industry average while BMW is below.  The question is if the CTS is better than CAddy average (it is) and whether the 5 series is above or below BMW average (do not have data)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 10, 2008 5:52 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 10, 2008 4:07 am) "The 5-series should be better than the CTS for the extra cost." That says it all. THAT"S what you are not getting.
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