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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 09, 2008 8:42 am) Correct. Merc blows away Caddy also. Better than BMW, perhaps. Regards, OW
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Replying to: nvbanker (Sep 09, 2008 9:17 am) Yes, but you would have a completely different car too. Better handling, less comfortable, less reliable, much more fun to drive. Yea and out a down payment on a house.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 09, 2008 10:01 am) |
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 09, 2008 8:33 am) My suggestion, though, is that you be a man & just say no to slush. You'll have more fun & you'll feel better about yourself.
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 09, 2008 8:33 am) Do you just make this stuff up to make your point? Or do you really believe it? The only possible negative is that the steering may be a little light. I see no "shaming" by BMW. Yes BMW test by Edmunds says it is a better car in the handing department but surely no shame. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=101188 An endless stream of corners through the trees proves the accuracy of the CTS's steering. Directional changes are suitably quick, yet the rear end of the CTS never slews off line. At the limit, the CTS hints at understeer, but the car responds willingly to a lift of the throttle for midcorner course corrections. But for track work, the steering effort still feels a little light, probably a legacy of Cadillac's past preference for low-effort refinement rather than high-speed precision. Three driver-adjustable settings for the stability control (Normal, Competitive and Off) are available to suit either your mood or skill level. Competitive mode proved just fine for on-track hustling, and it only intruded when we drove the racing line around the famously banked ditch at the Carousel. This thing is fun. The CTS lives up to everything you expect from a car developed at the Nürburgring. It's so good, we're thinking the chassis can handle much more power. It'll get it, too, when the 500-horsepower CTS-V debuts for 2009.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 09, 2008 10:11 am) "However, the slow-witted lifeless steering ruins the fun for the driver, and the ride jiggles and jolts too much at anything less than motorway speed". They also didn't care for the transmission and they claim the engines need to be revved too much for something their size, to deliver power. They also say the driving position is not up to snuff with the competition But they do have much positive to say about most of the interior, and the loads of standard equipment (BMW and the like exist in very basic base forms in Europe). They also do say the car has a lot of grip and doesn't have as much roll as the typical American car. The summary: "Has a certain charm, but the Germans won't be losing sleep" |
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 09, 2008 9:27 am) |
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| ...I drive my car to and from work on tight congested city streets and occassionally on the PA Turnpike or the Interstate for business and pleasure afar, not negotiating the Nürburgring. What the heck do I care if the steering and handling of my Cadillac DTS isn't quite as imperceptibly tight as that of a BMW? Oh, I'm going to pay a $10K+ premium for an improvement in handling I most likely won't notice? | |
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Replying to: lemko (Sep 09, 2008 10:32 am) 
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Replying to: jimbres (Sep 09, 2008 10:07 am) The car is still fantastic and makes all US cars a sad second best AT best. Caddy for sure. Regards, OW |
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