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Is Cadillac's Image Dying and Does Anyone Care?

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#5331 of 6189 caddy plug in hybrid??? by 62vetteefp

Aug 26, 2008 (1:50 pm)

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/26/rumormill-cadillac-to-get-its-own-volt/
 
With enormous V8 land-yachts and even bigger Escalades rolling down America's boulevards, Cadillac's doesn't have the most environmentally friendly of images. But that's a perception that the premium GM division is working hard to combat. After unveiling the Escalade two-mode hybrid, reports have begun to surface that Cadillac is considering a four-cylinder model for the American market like the Saab-based BLS it offers in Europe.
 
New emerging reports now suggest that Cadillac might get its own version of the highly-anticipated Volt plug-in hybrid from its sister-company Chevrolet. No telling at this point if the Cadillac version would be based on the Volt, transplant the Volt's powertrain into an existing Cadillac model, or breed an entirely new Caddy – or for that matter if there's any substance to the rumors – but sources suggest a higher sticker price than the Volt's anticipated $40k.

#5332 of 6189 Re: CTS-V "embarrasses" BMW??? [62vetteefp] by fintail

Aug 26, 2008 (2:48 pm)

Replying to: 62vetteefp (Aug 26, 2008 1:49 pm)
Link doesn't work, I had to go find it.
 
Now that the E63 and M5 are a couple years old, Caddy caught up
 
Here's the "story"

#5333 of 6189 Road and Tracks CT-V vs. M5 review by 62vetteefp

Aug 26, 2008 (6:19 pm)

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6963&page_numbe- r=2
 
Cadillac won by the skin of its teeth and all the participants walked away happy. Cadillac has made a CTS-V that can best the BMW M5 for likely the cost difference of a Chevy Malibu, while BMW knows its 3-year-old M5 is still close competition for the newest CTS-V. I'm sure BMW will be glad to raise the bar again with the next M5, but for now the V is king.

#5334 of 6189 Re: CTS-V "embarrasses" BMW??? [fintail] by 62vetteefp

Aug 26, 2008 (6:22 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Aug 26, 2008 2:48 pm)
Sorry, here is the Edmunds version
 
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=131106

#5335 of 6189 Re: CTS-V "embarrasses" BMW??? [62vetteefp] by fintail

Aug 26, 2008 (7:00 pm)

Replying to: 62vetteefp (Aug 26, 2008 6:22 pm)
Interesting. They now can hope other tests mimic those results.
 
What I find significant is not simply that the V was able to step in front of the competition - it is that it appears to be both a leap forward from the previous car, and that a Caddy like that exists at all. Step back a mere 10 years and tell an enthusiast that there would be a Caddy that can play head to head with the best from Germany, and they would think you were insane.
 
Such a car should incite the competition and make further development even more amazing.

#5336 of 6189 Re: CTS-V "embarrasses" BMW??? [fintail] by circlew

Aug 26, 2008 (7:46 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Aug 26, 2008 7:00 pm)
The bottom line is that GM can succeed...what has happened is that teetering on the brink has some nice stories. Let's see if it continues.
 
Regards,
OW

#5337 of 6189 by m4d_cow

Aug 26, 2008 (11:32 pm)

GM can succeed, when they pull in the right strategy, which seems exactly what theyre doing right now with new smaller engines.

#5338 of 6189 Re: nvbanker [m4d_cow] by robbieg

Aug 27, 2008 (6:56 am)

Replying to: m4d_cow (Aug 20, 2008 4:41 am)
Not sure that I agree. At least for upscale wagons, E class Mercedes, 5 series BMW, and the Audi. In my opinion, they are cooler than a minivan or SUV.
Then again, you have to be pretty well off to buy one of these. They are much more expensive than all minivans and most SUVs. Cadillac needs a wagon because their competitors, Mercedes, BMW and Audi have wagons.
 
Also, I think a fair amount of people buy Passat wagons. If you get one loaded they sort of get near the base CTS in price.
 
And yes, Cadillac does need a model priced below the CTS.

#5339 of 6189 I don't think so... by lemko

Aug 27, 2008 (7:07 am)

...a model priced below the CTS should be Buick's domain. I wouldn't mind a baby Buick based on the BLS. Maybe they can call it the Special for old time's sake?
 
I would most definitely be interested in a DTS-V or something like it. Of course such a vehicle would break my budget. I can always dream.

#5340 of 6189 Re: CTS-V "embarrasses" BMW??? [fintail] by nvbanker

Aug 27, 2008 (10:39 am)

Replying to: fintail (Aug 26, 2008 7:00 pm)
I too am amazed that any Cadillac can take this honor from the sacred Bimmer - good for GM! That is a real accomplishment. I guess maybe GM CAN make Cadillac a standard again....it takes a lot of effort though, and resources. But the CTS is the main thing Caddy has, and in these times, it's not a bad thing to have going for ya.

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