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It's been over 60 years since the Americans have so thoroughly trounced the Germans, but Inside Line has the numbers to prove it. The Edmunds news service had a chance to take the new Cadillac CTS-V (which we're driving in upstart New York as we speak) and its supercharged V8 for a spin around GM's Milford proving grounds and brought along its testing gear. The resulting bombardment ought to have the Germans thoroughly embarrassed and rebuilding for decades to come. The CTS-V ran the quarter-mile in a scant 12.5 seconds, besting the 12.7 it takes for either the BMW M5 or the Mercedes E63 AMG. Getting back to a standstill was another hit to the Bimmer and the Benz, with the Caddy stopping from 60-0 mph in 109 feet – five feet less than it takes the M5 and six shorter than the AMG. And if you're thinking that brakes and power are easy to upgrade and that the Cadillac couldn't possibly best the Germans on the handling course, think again: the CTS-V ran the slalom at 71.1 mph, while the M5 and E63 ran it in 68.5 and 65 mph respectively. Deutschland über alles indeed. Go to:http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/26/faster-than-an-m5-first-cadillac-cts-v-per- formance-test-publish/
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http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/26/rumormill-cadillac-to-get-its-own-volt/ With enormous V8 land-yachts and even bigger Escalades rolling down America's boulevards, Cadillac's doesn't have the most environmentally friendly of images. But that's a perception that the premium GM division is working hard to combat. After unveiling the Escalade two-mode hybrid, reports have begun to surface that Cadillac is considering a four-cylinder model for the American market like the Saab-based BLS it offers in Europe. New emerging reports now suggest that Cadillac might get its own version of the highly-anticipated Volt plug-in hybrid from its sister-company Chevrolet. No telling at this point if the Cadillac version would be based on the Volt, transplant the Volt's powertrain into an existing Cadillac model, or breed an entirely new Caddy – or for that matter if there's any substance to the rumors – but sources suggest a higher sticker price than the Volt's anticipated $40k. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Aug 26, 2008 12:49 pm) Now that the E63 and M5 are a couple years old, Caddy caught up  Here's the "story" |
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6963&page_numbe- r=2 Cadillac won by the skin of its teeth and all the participants walked away happy. Cadillac has made a CTS-V that can best the BMW M5 for likely the cost difference of a Chevy Malibu, while BMW knows its 3-year-old M5 is still close competition for the newest CTS-V. I'm sure BMW will be glad to raise the bar again with the next M5, but for now the V is king. |
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Replying to: fintail (Aug 26, 2008 1:48 pm) http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=131106
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Aug 26, 2008 5:22 pm) What I find significant is not simply that the V was able to step in front of the competition - it is that it appears to be both a leap forward from the previous car, and that a Caddy like that exists at all. Step back a mere 10 years and tell an enthusiast that there would be a Caddy that can play head to head with the best from Germany, and they would think you were insane. Such a car should incite the competition and make further development even more amazing.
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Replying to: fintail (Aug 26, 2008 6:00 pm) Regards, OW |
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| GM can succeed, when they pull in the right strategy, which seems exactly what theyre doing right now with new smaller engines. | |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Aug 20, 2008 3:41 am) Then again, you have to be pretty well off to buy one of these. They are much more expensive than all minivans and most SUVs. Cadillac needs a wagon because their competitors, Mercedes, BMW and Audi have wagons. Also, I think a fair amount of people buy Passat wagons. If you get one loaded they sort of get near the base CTS in price. And yes, Cadillac does need a model priced below the CTS. |
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...a model priced below the CTS should be Buick's domain. I wouldn't mind a baby Buick based on the BLS. Maybe they can call it the Special for old time's sake? I would most definitely be interested in a DTS-V or something like it. Of course such a vehicle would break my budget. I can always dream.
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