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#5306 of 6098 Re: [circlew] by sls002 Aug 19, 2008 (9:57 am)
Replying to: circlew (Aug 19, 2008 8:29 am) The 5-series suspension goes beyond the 3-series in refinement. The cost of the 5-series is also way beyond what the 3-series or CTS costs too. Since I have not driven a BMW, Mercedes or whatever, I am not sure what sort of feel one can get with other power steering designs. However, I know that the car magazines comment on this.   BMW's primary design goal is to make their vehicles the best for ride and handling. GM is trying to build vehicles for everyone. When you try to build vehicles that most everyone will want, some compromises creep in. Cadillac is either going to have to focus on being the best sports sedan ever, or they have to be the best luxury cars. Mercedes does not have the best sports sedans, but Mercedes does have some odd vehicles that are very good. I think Mercedes has out done BMW's M cars.
#5307 of 6098 The way I see it; by nvbanker Aug 19, 2008 (1:36 pm)
If you want a Driver's car, get the BMW. If you want a Luxury car, get the Lexus. If you want a cheap luxury car, get a Hyundai Genesis. If you want an American near Sport Car, get the CTS. If you want an American near Luxury car, get the DTS. CTS = Acura RL If you want it all, get the Mercedes.   That's just how I see it, YMMV. Replies to this message: sls002 (Aug 19, 2008 2:05 pm) nvbanker (Aug 19, 2008 2:08 pm) circlew (Aug 20, 2008 2:57 am) and 1 more... plekto (Aug 20, 2008 1:43 pm) sls002 (Aug 20, 2008 2:49 pm) fintail (Aug 20, 2008 5:14 pm)
#5308 of 6098 Re: The way I see it; [nvbanker] by sls002 Aug 19, 2008 (2:05 pm)
Replying to: nvbanker (Aug 19, 2008 1:36 pm) Ah, but which Mercedes? Mercedes has a lot of different models, all are different. Top Gear (BBC America) had an interesting race between a sports car model and a boat (London to Oslo). Two boats broke down on the way, so the car won. Replies to this message: nvbanker (Aug 19, 2008 2:08 pm) circlew (Aug 20, 2008 2:57 am) sls002 (Aug 20, 2008 6:53 am) plekto (Aug 20, 2008 1:43 pm) sls002 (Aug 20, 2008 2:49 pm) fintail (Aug 20, 2008 5:14 pm)
#5309 of 6098 Re: The way I see it; [sls002] by nvbanker Aug 19, 2008 (2:08 pm)
Replying to: sls002 (Aug 19, 2008 2:05 pm) The S Class, of course. The rest are starters. Replies to this message: circlew (Aug 20, 2008 2:57 am) sls002 (Aug 20, 2008 6:53 am)
#5310 of 6098 Re: The way I see it; [nvbanker] by circlew Aug 20, 2008 (2:57 am)
Replying to: nvbanker (Aug 19, 2008 2:08 pm) Agreed, S500AMG. Replies to this message: sls002 (Aug 20, 2008 6:53 am)
#5311 of 6098 nvbanker by m4d_cow Aug 20, 2008 (3:41 am)
I dont know that much about Magnum's sales details, but if its true I wont be that surprised. Like I said, the general term for wagon in the US is wagon = uncool. Replies to this message: sls002 (Aug 20, 2008 6:56 am) robbieg (Aug 27, 2008 5:56 am)
#5312 of 6098 Re: The way I see it; [circlew] by sls002 Aug 20, 2008 (6:53 am)
Replying to: circlew (Aug 20, 2008 2:57 am) The S-class is really not a sports sedan though. If the CTS is a bit too big, then the S500 is even more out of it. On the other hand the S65AMG might be OK. The SL65AMG is better though, but more sports car than sedan.
#5313 of 6098 Re: nvbanker [m4d_cow] by sls002 Aug 20, 2008 (6:56 am)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Aug 20, 2008 3:41 am) I think that the wagon buyer wants something more off road like an SUV, or they want something better for hauling stuff like a minivan. I personally wanted a decent handling wagon, something like the BMW 5-series wagon. But the nearest dealer is over 300 miles from here, so getting service would be expensive.
#5314 of 6098 Re: The way I see it; [sls002] by plekto Aug 20, 2008 (1:43 pm)
Replying to: sls002 (Aug 19, 2008 2:05 pm) There has only ever been one Mercedes, even 50 years ago. The others are cheap consumer and taxi models that were created as a way to placate those who couldn't afford the real thing and to gain market share among yuppies and wanna-be wealthy.   P.S. The leather seats in a S class are to die for. Really. Like an expensive leather jacket and not this junk the auto industry usually passes off as leather. Though Mercedes at least has the honesty to label their fake leather as synthetic leather.(MB Tex) Replies to this message: sls002 (Aug 20, 2008 2:49 pm) fintail (Aug 20, 2008 5:14 pm)
#5315 of 6098 Re: The way I see it; [plekto] by sls002 Aug 20, 2008 (2:49 pm)
Replying to: plekto (Aug 20, 2008 1:43 pm) I think the E-class is quite good. The C-class is low end. The S-class may correspond to something from the 60's, but models were named differently then.

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