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#5270 of 6098 As far as I'm concerned... by lemko Aug 14, 2008 (5:47 am)
...no other vehicle is prettier than the DTS. My number one priority when buying a car is its styling, and I have always loved the classic Cadillac look. The stacked lights remind me of the 1965-68 models. The slim vertical taillights are pure Caddy.   The Genesis looks like every other anonymous Asian sedan with a really gross grille. Shoot, is the designer of the 1961 Plymouth grille now working at Hyundai? Replies to this message: sls002 (Aug 14, 2008 7:24 am) lemko (Aug 14, 2008 8:54 am) sls002 (Aug 14, 2008 9:12 am)
#5271 of 6098 Re: As far as I'm concerned... [lemko] by sls002 Aug 14, 2008 (7:24 am)
Replying to: lemko (Aug 14, 2008 5:47 am) When the deVille moved to the G-body (Aurora body design) for the 2000 model year the styling was similar to the Seville, but in my opinion the DeVille is a bit too long for the Seville styling lines to work well. The FWD Seville was better looking. Replies to this message: lemko (Aug 14, 2008 8:54 am) sls002 (Aug 14, 2008 9:12 am)
#5272 of 6098 Re: As far as I'm concerned... [sls002] by lemko Aug 14, 2008 (8:54 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Aug 14, 2008 7:24 am) I had a G-body Seville as well. Too bad they didn't keep the current STS the same length as my old car else I'd have probable gone for it instead. I'd say the DTS is about 6" longer than my 2002 Seville STS. The length isn't all wasted in the DTS. There seems to be a lot more back seat space. I'm hoping for a RWD/AWD DTS in the future. Replies to this message: sls002 (Aug 14, 2008 9:12 am)
#5273 of 6098 Re: As far as I'm concerned... [lemko] by sls002 Aug 14, 2008 (9:12 am)
Replying to: lemko (Aug 14, 2008 8:54 am) The RWD STS is not as wide as the FWD was, so the interior will seem somewhat smaller. The DTS/deVille has always had a large rear seat area. This is why it is not a sports sedan. The T in DTS means touring, Touring, as applied to cars, is not well defined. For GM cars, touring usually meant better handling than the standard model (Buick T-types, Olds Touring, STS ...).
#5274 of 6098 by m4d_cow Aug 14, 2008 (9:16 pm)
Well, like they said, beauty is subjective. The DTS looks just ok, but the pre-facelift version (when it was named deVille) looks horrific. The Gen will look much better with other grill. When it comes to Cadillac I find STS and Escalade best looking.   I'm not saying the Gen's interior has luxo quality look to it, but noone can deny the fact that its so good compared to other Hyundais'. Trying to steal Lexus customers? I dont think so. Trying to steal Nissan maxima, toyota avalon, or premium models from Buick and Chrysler buyers? yes, maybe.   "While I might agree this will take time, I saw the car up close and a $36K Gen will get my money in a heartbeat faster then a $46K DTS" I agree if I have to choose between the 2, although for $36k I dare bet Infiniti or BMW will win my money instead. No Hyundai will ever get 36k from my pocket. Replies to this message: nvbanker (Aug 15, 2008 8:50 am) circlew (Aug 17, 2008 8:10 am) 62vetteefp (Aug 19, 2008 4:19 am) and 4 more...
#5275 of 6098 Re: [m4d_cow] by nvbanker Aug 15, 2008 (8:50 am)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Aug 14, 2008 9:16 pm) Trying to steal Lexus customers? I dont think so. Trying to steal Nissan maxima, toyota avalon, or premium models from Buick and Chrysler buyers? yes, maybe.   Exactly what I think as well.   No Hyundai will ever get 36k from my pocket.         Nor mine.... I like the Sonata for the money - beyond that, you pay more, and get no more, IMO. Replies to this message: circlew (Aug 17, 2008 8:10 am) 62vetteefp (Aug 19, 2008 4:19 am) circlew (Aug 19, 2008 5:50 am) and 3 more...
#5276 of 6098 maybe a new wagon will help? by steve_ HOST Aug 15, 2008 (1:13 pm)
2010 Cadillac CTS Sport Wagon and SRX Replies to this message: nvbanker (Aug 15, 2008 1:18 pm) cooterbfd (Aug 15, 2008 2:53 pm) sls002 (Aug 15, 2008 2:59 pm) fintail (Aug 15, 2008 5:22 pm)
#5277 of 6098 Re: maybe a new wagon will help? [steve_] by nvbanker Aug 15, 2008 (1:18 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Aug 15, 2008 1:13 pm) A Cadillac station wagon.....what a travesty! Only good for Funeral Parlors, IMO. Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Aug 15, 2008 2:53 pm)
#5278 of 6098 Re: maybe a new wagon will help? [nvbanker] by cooterbfd Aug 15, 2008 (2:53 pm)
Replying to: nvbanker (Aug 15, 2008 1:18 pm) Only good for Funeral Parlors, IMO.        Well, hearses and ambulances were traditionally built on commercial chassis, and weren't staton wagons.   Traditionally, this would've gone to Buick. However, with their main competitors (MB,BMW,and Audi) building them, and with gas prices being what they are, it makes sense.
#5279 of 6098 Re: maybe a new wagon will help? [steve_] by sls002 Aug 15, 2008 (2:59 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Aug 15, 2008 1:13 pm) If the CTS wagon had been available in 2007 (or expected by 2008) I would probably have bought it instead of the SRX. A Cadillac Estate body was available way back before WWII, so a Cadillac wagon is not a travesty at all.

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