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Re: Ha... [m4d_cow]
by sls002
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Aug 02, 2008 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Aug 01, 2008 9:41 pm)
The old saying is "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". One thing that is generally agreed is that the Pontiac Aztec was ugly. Cadillac's Art and Science style is not really good or bad, but depends on what one likes. I think that the Evoq was nice, but translating that styling into a 4 door sedan has been less successful.
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Re: Cant beat Porsche [lemko]
by ehaase
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Aug 03, 2008 (3:35 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 31, 2008 11:07 am)
The STS/DTS replacement has been postponed to 2014, and the Northstar in the current DTS will be replaced by the 3.6L V6 (direct injection model) in 2 or 3 years. I read this on another forum, and an auto industry insider confirmed it to me. GM is putting all its limited resources into the Volt and other fuel efficient models.
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Re: Cant beat Porsche [ehaase]
by fintail
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Aug 03, 2008 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: ehaase (Aug 03, 2008 3:35 am)
2014? By 2013 STS sales might be a dozen a month.
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Re:sts/dts replacement[ehaase]
by 62vetteefp
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Aug 03, 2008 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: ehaase (Aug 03, 2008 3:35 am)
Could you link us to that forum? I really doubt it would be 2014. Way too far away. Delayed until 2012 maybe.
Can absolutely believe 3.6, most likely with a turbo or charger. Already on the shelf 6 years ago. Was a possible engine for a LaCrosse Super before they went cheap and went with the already developed V8.
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Re: Cant beat Porsche [ehaase]
by sls002
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Aug 03, 2008 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: ehaase (Aug 03, 2008 3:35 am)
It would make sense to delay and use the Volt technology on some all new design. Using a carbon fiber body would reduce weight a lot too.
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Re: Ha... [m4d_cow]
by lemko
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Aug 04, 2008 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Aug 01, 2008 9:41 pm)
You wanna see a REALLY UGLY grille? Take a look at the latest Acura TL. Even my co-worker who is a rabid Honda fanatic can't stand it.
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Re: Ha... [lemko]
by circlew
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Aug 04, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Aug 04, 2008 6:07 am)
Absolutely agree! The poster on the Acura TL forum are sick over it!
Regards,
OW
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Re: Ha... [lemko]
by laurasdada
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Aug 04, 2008 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Aug 04, 2008 6:07 am)
Yeah, add me to the list. Did the Acura designers see the movie, "Transformers" one too many times? Or maybe "Gladiator..."
I drive by an Acura dealer every night, see '09 RLs and TSX with the "Beak of Aluminum," pointing my way. Just not a good look.
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Re: Ha... [circlew]
by sls002
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Aug 05, 2008 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 04, 2008 6:28 am)
It doesn't look that bad to me, but I don't see the problem with the 59 Cadillac either, so what do I know. What I do know is that for some reason the big grill is or was in, so Honda is only getting there late. Perhaps styling is now beginning to shift 
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