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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Oops, I Did it Again... by laurasdada
Jul 30, 2008 (7:25 pm)
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Again, stopped at Caddy dealer on the way home as they have an '05 XLR w/20k miles. Asking $35k... So, I'm looking at the car, top is down (so at least I know the top goes down! Does it go up?).
  
Salesman approaches and I do believe it is the same one who "snubbed" me last Friday. Asks what I think of the car. I give him the general, "mid-life crisis, just looking, rather have an '06 with dark wood in the interior" speech. He smiles, mentions the black '06 (that appeared to have the top trouble last week), but I shan't own a black car. He congenially said I'm welcome back anytime to shop, window or otherwise. Nice.
  
I mention, as we're parting, that the left front quarter panel is separating from the frame. He looks stunned, said no, he actually sold this car three years ago and it has been meticulously maintained by this dealer... He walks around to the driver's side and looks down. Looks up at me and smiles, "Thanks for alerting me to this." De nada, amigo.
  
Ok, two XLRs within a week. One with a recalcitrant top, the second has the body separating from the frame (looked to me like the glue holding it on had simply dried up). Again, are the Car Gods trying to tell me something? Isn't GM quality Job 1? Or is GM quality an oxymoron...
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Cant beat Porsche by m4d_cow
Jul 30, 2008 (8:15 pm)
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for the price. Both Ferrari and Lambo cost about twice as much as an equivalent Porsche.
 
Its good to find someone finally agreeing to my idea that Cadillac should be compared to something in its class (bmw, lexus etc) rather than Rolls and Maybach...
 
The debate's really heating up rapidly its fun to watch, keep at it guys (and ladies)
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Re: Oops, I Did it Again... [laurasdada] by circlew
Jul 31, 2008 (3:05 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 30, 2008 7:25 pm)

The Car Gods know....walk away fast!
 
Thanks for alerting me to this, by the way!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Cant beat Porsche [m4d_cow] by laurasdada
Jul 31, 2008 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 30, 2008 8:15 pm)

True, especially as Porsches can be daily drivers. Unlike most Ferrari/Lambos.
 
To me, the only car Caddy produces that can be compared favorably to MBMWEXUS is the CTS. Sharp car, except for the overly blinged front end... And I'm too old and square to use the term, "blinged..."
 
Good to see you here, there and everywhere, OW.
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Re: Cant beat Porsche [laurasdada] by circlew
Jul 31, 2008 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 31, 2008 10:46 am)

Gotta keep 'em honest!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Cant beat Porsche [laurasdada] by lemko
Jul 31, 2008 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 31, 2008 10:46 am)

I really like the CTS as well and it shows great promise that Cadillac is going in the right direction. I do like the details on the CTS better than the DTS which I own, however the CTS is a little too small for my tastes and the STS is too expensive. I hope the CTS-like attention to detail crosses over to the DTS. I hear there's supposed to be a replacement for both the DTS/STS in 2010. I guess I'll have to wait until then.
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spyshots of next STS/DTS! by 62vetteefp
Jul 31, 2008 (12:59 pm)
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http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-limo.html
 
 
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Re: spyshots of next STS/DTS! [62vetteefp] by lemko
Jul 31, 2008 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 31, 2008 12:59 pm)

Sheesh, I hope the next DTS is prettier than the Presidential limo. I think both of W's rides look pretty gruesome. Clinton's 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham was a very attractive Presidential limo. I think Papa Bush had a 1989 Lincoln Town Car. I have a scale model of Ronald Reagan's 1984 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham limo which was rather attractive.
 
It's a shame they can't make the President's limo attractive and proportioned despite all that armor. Looks like it could take a few RPG hits. That rear door looks as thick as one on a bank vault
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Re: spyshots of next STS/DTS! [lemko] by circlew
Aug 01, 2008 (3:03 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 31, 2008 6:15 pm)

Exactly, my Dad's 1984 FWB was far more attractive than Obama's new ride!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: spyshots of next STS/DTS! [circlew] by lemko
Aug 01, 2008 (4:45 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 01, 2008 3:03 am)

My 1989 Brougham is pretty much the same car as your Dad's 1984 Fleetwood Brougham but with a much better engine than the dreadful 4100.
 
I recall around that time Cadillac used a V-6. If it was the same V-6 that's in my 1988 Buick Park Avenue, it has more guts than the 4100! It's rated at 165 hp and I think the 4100 only had like 120.

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