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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: bumpy [bumpy] by circlew
Jul 30, 2008 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 30, 2008 6:38 am)

...couple unaffordable leases with higher prices for trucks and premium cars, tight credit, decreasing home values and you get lower sales across the board.
 
Regards,
OW
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Caddy-as their concept. by bvdj84
Jul 30, 2008 (7:40 am)
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If GM can make the Cadillac the standard of quality of what defines their company, and put more of this work into all of their models, then they would see a better outcome, perhaps downsizing their line up of duplicate cars that have different names on them, but they are they same car, Outlook, Acadia? The same. The problem is they have too many cars, downsizing its line up, would allot for more time and effort to put more quality into their cars.
 
The problem is, they keep rebadging their cars. They have too many cars, I feel thats why they slack on overall quality.
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GMAC not offering "incentivised" leasing in Canada by 62vetteefp
Jul 30, 2008 (7:45 am)
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GM, unlike Chrysler who is stopping all leases, will not offer incentivised leases in Canada. I think for GM-Canada that means if there is a rebate on a vehicle you get the rebate with a lease instead of a lower lease offer. Sounds like the same thing in the end? Anyway GM is still offering leases.
 
GMAC Financial Services said Tuesday that it will no longer offer leasing-related incentives in Canada, citing market conditions in the country and recent steep drops in used vehicle residual values.
GMAC spokeswoman Gina Proia said GMAC will suspend Canadian incentivised lease offers effective Aug. 1, but will continue offer standard rate leases in the country.
 
The news, which was conveyed to dealers on Monday, follows Chrysler LLC's announcement that its financial arm will get out of the U.S. automotive leasing business by the end of the month. The Auburn Hills, Mich.-based automaker also cited the decline in used truck and sport utility vehicle values.
 
Wholesale prices of used pickup trucks dropped 11.2 percent during the second quarter, while wholesale SUV prices fell 9.6 percent, according to National Automobile Dealers Association AuctionNet data released by the NADA's Used Car Guide.
 
Both Chrysler Financial and GMAC are owned by Cerberus Capital Management LP. The private equity firm owns 80.1 percent of Chrysler and a 51 percent stake in GMAC.
 
They aren't the only automakers hurt by increases in leasing costs. Ford Motor Co. said last week that its credit arm took a $2.1 billion charge during the second quarter because of the drop in the residual values of leased trucks and SUVs.
 
Proia said that as of Tuesday, no similar announcement had been made concerning U.S. GMAC leases.
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Oops, I Did it Again... by laurasdada
Jul 30, 2008 (7:25 pm)
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Again, stopped at Caddy dealer on the way home as they have an '05 XLR w/20k miles. Asking $35k... So, I'm looking at the car, top is down (so at least I know the top goes down! Does it go up?).
  
Salesman approaches and I do believe it is the same one who "snubbed" me last Friday. Asks what I think of the car. I give him the general, "mid-life crisis, just looking, rather have an '06 with dark wood in the interior" speech. He smiles, mentions the black '06 (that appeared to have the top trouble last week), but I shan't own a black car. He congenially said I'm welcome back anytime to shop, window or otherwise. Nice.
  
I mention, as we're parting, that the left front quarter panel is separating from the frame. He looks stunned, said no, he actually sold this car three years ago and it has been meticulously maintained by this dealer... He walks around to the driver's side and looks down. Looks up at me and smiles, "Thanks for alerting me to this." De nada, amigo.
  
Ok, two XLRs within a week. One with a recalcitrant top, the second has the body separating from the frame (looked to me like the glue holding it on had simply dried up). Again, are the Car Gods trying to tell me something? Isn't GM quality Job 1? Or is GM quality an oxymoron...
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Cant beat Porsche by m4d_cow
Jul 30, 2008 (8:15 pm)
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for the price. Both Ferrari and Lambo cost about twice as much as an equivalent Porsche.
 
Its good to find someone finally agreeing to my idea that Cadillac should be compared to something in its class (bmw, lexus etc) rather than Rolls and Maybach...
 
The debate's really heating up rapidly its fun to watch, keep at it guys (and ladies)
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Re: Oops, I Did it Again... [laurasdada] by circlew
Jul 31, 2008 (3:05 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 30, 2008 7:25 pm)

The Car Gods know....walk away fast!
 
Thanks for alerting me to this, by the way!
 
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OW
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Re: Cant beat Porsche [m4d_cow] by laurasdada
Jul 31, 2008 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 30, 2008 8:15 pm)

True, especially as Porsches can be daily drivers. Unlike most Ferrari/Lambos.
 
To me, the only car Caddy produces that can be compared favorably to MBMWEXUS is the CTS. Sharp car, except for the overly blinged front end... And I'm too old and square to use the term, "blinged..."
 
Good to see you here, there and everywhere, OW.
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Re: Cant beat Porsche [laurasdada] by circlew
Jul 31, 2008 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 31, 2008 10:46 am)

Gotta keep 'em honest!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Cant beat Porsche [laurasdada] by lemko
Jul 31, 2008 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 31, 2008 10:46 am)

I really like the CTS as well and it shows great promise that Cadillac is going in the right direction. I do like the details on the CTS better than the DTS which I own, however the CTS is a little too small for my tastes and the STS is too expensive. I hope the CTS-like attention to detail crosses over to the DTS. I hear there's supposed to be a replacement for both the DTS/STS in 2010. I guess I'll have to wait until then.
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spyshots of next STS/DTS! by 62vetteefp
Jul 31, 2008 (12:59 pm)
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http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-limo.html
 
 

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